I am getting converted to KDE

As past 4+ years Linux user and huge Gnome Fanboy I think I am getting converted to KDE. Past weeks I have been running Tumbleweed Gnome, AEON and Kalpa all on separate laptops and my main laptop has been AEON and testing hardware Tumbleweed or KALPA and I have seen I don’t enjoy Gnome too much anymore and always taking my Kalpa machine to do daily stuff and workflow and it makes me so much happier so decided to switch my main AEON out and out Kalpa on it and wow it just feels now correct :100:.

Not sure what it is I can’t explain why I am starting to like so much KDE or is it just the change after long time Gnome use. Especially Plasma 6 feels amazing :heart_eyes: and does what I need without any issues

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I used Gnome for several years. But then the Gnome developers started to make it harder to configure the desktop the way that I like it. So I tried KDE. And I haven’t gone back. KDE is still very flexible.

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True I just hit breeze dark and made it how I want without downloading anything topbar, bittombar and adding some widgets and arrange it done. I tried many times KDE and somehow didn’t like it those times but I guess I am grown and same does KDE and we meet again and it was a match

The question is –

  • New (to Linux/UNIX®) and ex-Windows-only user? Or,
  • Someone who has used more than a few operating systems?

If the 2nd case then, KDE Plasma.
If the 1st case then, GNOME.

Why?

  • If it can’t be easily changed, it’s difficult to break something …

And, the KDE Plasma Kontact suite and/or KMail is a bit quirky to setup properly –

  • New users will possibly be much happier using the Mozilla Thunderbird application as an e-Mail and calender tool.

BTW – I’m a KDE Plasma user.

Linux user years. Multiple distro hopped, atomics, workstation etc, former Windows only user now over year no windows at all not even VM and 6 months ago deleted all my misty accounts. I started Ubuntu yes as mostly all, but then it started to hopping phase and always choosed gnome I liked the minimalist way and how it was made, but lately it was gettyboring and felt off…

contact yes it is not easy to pickup not either to get fully synced Google on KDE, but it is doable still Thi haven’t figuyout how I get calendar and contacts for Kalpa yet drive is easy as pie and thunderbird is really nice now days daily user on that

That’s not my experience at all. KDE has a more similar feel to the Windows desktop, and I’ve preferred it in all its incarnations since 2003. It’s all about the UI design, and I find Gnome strange a strange awkward UI to use. Others I know using Linux generally prefer KDE (including new users).

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Hi I agree with @deano_ferrari I have been using KDE since 1998 and I really like Gnome. However, for my use with a Gnome mouse and keyboard it is too distracting. I don’t really like extensions in Gnome, which I have definitively abandoned. KDE with the block during installation of kalendarac and KDE-PIM seems practical to me and I feel comfortable with it. The Gnome desktop system seemed perfect to me for a touchscreen with a vague resemblance to my iPad but I don’t like all those extensions that are practically indispensable…

Is it really so? I may rather go with @deano_ferrari in 6. When I started with Linux/SuSE in 2001 I have seen KDE and I found the look very close to Win_whatever. It might have been 98 or XP. I have had a brief glimpse into GNOME and I have to admit, I found it rather awkward. Never tried again, just saw some screenshots.
However, the GUI from Redmont has changed a lot and in a way I dislike to the extreme. (Must use it for the job…)
If that’s what GNOME is today - OK - got it.

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Yep, I’ll go with deano, that’s was the feeling I got the first time I used Linux.
But the love for KDE soon vanished here when I met Xfce :grinning: Maybe it’s jus me.
I really like the xfce right mouse click and very costumizable and light for my ancient desktop.

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@conram I have XFCE running on a very old MacBook :wink: But still a GNOME and Aeon user and some Hyprland.

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One of us! one of us!! :blush:

Hello everybody. I have always liked KDE and in vm I have leap 15.6 and slowroll with KDE desktop. The other VM are all Xfce: slowroll, leap 15.6, MX linux and Linux Mint 22. In my old laptop I use slowroll XFCE. Due to my inexperience I have never understood why my VM with KDE in YouTube playback are smoother than those VM with Xfce desktop. No difference in bare metal.

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I always found Gnome boring… I’m a happy long time user of KDE since I really discovered it with a Kubuntu like 5 yrs ago and now with Leap 15.6. I would not change yhis great pair!

There is quircks and stuff in KDE I don’t like and makes things complicated, but I guess that is normal tho kde wallet should just go away and let us just use third-party manager straight.

But it has been good for me I am using Kalpa and it is still alpha stastage and really stable I like it way too much

You can easily switch it off System Settings, at least here with Leap 15.5 (KDE-Plasma 5.27.9):


Just untick it:
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Please note that –

  1. If you want to be a good KDE citizen and report any KDE crashes by means of Dr Konqi then, if you want a reasonably efficient workflow to report a crash, you’ll have to enable KWallet –
    To store your encrypted access credentials to the KDE Bug Reporting system.

  2. If you wish to use the KDE Plasma PIM – Kontact – and, in particular KMail, you’ll have to enable KWallet to store your encrypted access credentials needed for your e-Mail service providers.

  3. If you access local networks by means of WLAN/WiFi then, you’ll have to enable KWallet to store the encrypted private (personal) access credentials Network Manager needs to access any given Wireless Network.
    Yes, yes, you can store those access credentials as plain text – not encrypted – in a sub-directory of ‘/etc/’ and, if that’s what you really want then, oh, very well then … :smiling_imp:


Yes, yes – KWallet is a purely local password manager with no means to provide a common shared set of access credentials for multiple devices that any single person or, any given group of people, wish to have as a single storage point for all their access credentials.


Yes, yes, there’s lots of negative information about Blowfish on the network –

Every time I’ve dipped into c++ and qt it’s ended badly so I’m kind of riding the cosmic epoch hype train atm because… of course rust gui development will be easier right?

Have to admit at the moment I always come back to Plasma though.

As I decided for the best desktop I wanted to reactivate really old machines. Primarily they lack at amount of memory. As the bare x-server doesn’t make sense IceWM proved to be the best for me. Now my computers have enough GB in RAM so I wanted more comfort. Comparing Gnome and KDE the Qt framework makes the difference. While there are some superior Gnome applications everyone is invited to improve the KDE Gear. Why using anything else than Dolphin, Okular, Kate and Ark? Only Konsole coluld be better. then I’m using Gwenview. Then there are Apps I don’t use as too much is too much. DigiCam and KPhotoAlbum are doing almost the same job. Both have their pros and cons. Best is if they have SQL-server in backgound like MariaDB. Another must-have is Kdenlive.
Finally the swtich towards KDE Plasma 6 was quite smooth and automatically. Now the look and feel of the desktop is more up-to-date.

it’s the reason why I prefer GTK for GUI apps, because of C.

… of course rust gui development will be easier right?

quite opposite, as a trade-of some extra safety the coding in Rust has much more limitations than with C. Shortly: it’s harder.

I also am a big KDE fan. I’ve been using Linux on Desktops for nearly 25 years, and I’ve seen both KDE and Gnome evolve and change a lot. I’ve always liked KDE better as far as the interface is concerned, but years ago it was terribly bloated and also had the problem that it was broken only into a few very large packages, so if you wanted one app, you had to install a huge package with a bunch of stuff you might not want.

Nowadays it’s much lighter and this problem has been solved. I wonder if Gentoo’s split ebuilds were a factor in it. The gentoo developers did the hard work that the KDE developers hadn’t done, in separating the packages, and kinda forced the issue as a proof of concept. I was using a Gentoo system as my main desktop at the time and I loved the split ebuilds. But when I decided Gentoo was too much for me, and switched to Ubuntu, I didn’t have the option of split installations, so I switched to Gnome for some time. But Gnome changed in ways I didn’t like. Newer versions of Gnome seemed to break keyboard navigation in the ways I used it, and I never liked the UI of Gnome as much as KDE.

It is interesting to me to see that now the configurability and lighter, more flexible approach has now become available even in the mainstream distros. And so I switched back to KDE.

Even though I’m partial to KDE, I love the fact that there is a strong alternative to KDE, Gnome, and I think Linux is much better off with two big desktop environments. And I also like Xfce, it’s a great option if you want something lighter. Many of the most knowledgeable people I have known seem to prefer Xfce. And if you install something on old hardware, Xfce is so fast and has a minimal footprint, which is a huge benefit.