I am getting converted to KDE

[oxwrongagain]

Hello all!

Fun and interesting discussion!

I started using Gnome as my primary DE, along with SuSE as my primary OS (replaced slowaris) around year 2000. I dumped Gnome in favor of Cinnamon and/or LXDE shortly after the 3.0 release. I have tried KDE a few times over the years, but have always found the UI too busy, too much like windoZe. I returned to Gnome a few years ago. I like it slightly better than Cinnamon.

@nrickert wrote:

@nrickert

But then the Gnome developers started to make it harder to configure the desktop the way that I like it.

While I genuinely love the streamlined, clutter free design philosophy of Gnome, they have taken it WAY too far. Their misguided design decisions, constantly confusing streamlining with dumbing down, is actually making Gnome harder to use! If I were willing to take the time, I could easily identify dozens of specific examples. One particularly annoying recent “improvement” that comes to mind is fixed-with file properties dialogue boxes, making it impossible to actually read the information if you are viewing an especially long “path/filename” combo. This is one of one of those windoZe “things” that I have always hated. The worst part, you can actually resize the dialogue box, but the actual width of the displayed information remains constant.

as opposed to the same properties as viewed in Nemo (the Cinnamon file manager)

I would like to present this as an example of “bad” design, but it is not. It is simply STUPID.

I think it is time for me to take KDE for another test spin!

[malcolmlewis]

@oxwrongagain Um, that image is a bit obtuse, lets be fair if you don’t know where you are in the filesystem structure you can look up a bit for the full parent folder path?

Personally, not sure why it’s even needed to be shown in the dialog…

[oxwrongagain]

Hi @malcolmlewis,

The images I posted were intended to simply show the technical fact. When you have extremely long filenames, and I do love my absurdly long filenames, things get a bit more compelling.

It also becomes confusing when you have multiple properties dialogues open to compare modification dates or whatever of files of the same base filename, as when browsing backups.

Actually, I only use nautilus (the gnome file manager) to browse multimedia, and not very often. The tracker integration is the only reason I have nautilus installed; I really like being able to search metadata embedded in my videos, music, and photos and have the results visually represented, e.g. the thumbnails in nautilus. This serves as yet another example of Gnome’s misguided vision of “ease of use”. Tracker integration with gnome/nautilus has been broken for years. Nautilus is only useful for browsing multimedia if you fix it yourself and compile it yourself.

More to the point, that is but one small illustrative example of a much larger problem in Gnome generally.