On 2014-12-31 19:36, beginsuse wrote:
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> well, what is better filesystem? ext4 or btrfs? my computer is x32 bits
> and use it just for programming and learn to programming. just i need an
> OS stable and secure. i dont need playgames, only listen some music, and
> programming, this is why i though opensuse is my OS, am i wrong?
Better? btrfs, of course.
Do you need those advantages? Dunno. They come with some difficulties.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 âBottleâ at Telcontar)
No, you are not wrong. I am not a gamer, I use it for very similar reasons that you give here, and I think it is the best distro for what you are saying.
ext4 or btrfs, either is fine, a personal choice.
If you are programming and learning programming, I would think you should also like to understand the various filesystems, as they are involved in programming and design. So, I would think BTRFS would be suitable for you, where you could study it sometimes to broaden your experience.
Both filesystems are quite stable, as you can see several well-experienced forum members using one, the other, or both and finding no serious problems.
What is needed, though, is an improved structure to your HD. The way it is now, it is split up inefficiently and limits your options to what I would describe as âsorta okay, if that is what you are stuck withâ.
My suggestions are going to be to once again delete all the other partitions, but keep your Store partition. Then, you will move your Store partition to a better position. Where it sits now, it splits your HD up to less than ideal layout. Then you will create the partitions exactly as they should be, using GParted, before installing openSUSE.
Do not start this yet. First, I need to go back through this thread, or ask you: What do you have in your Store partition? Is it your old /home directory? Or, is it some other Data? Backups?
Knowing what is in there will play an important role in how I am going to suggest you layout your HD.
No worries, when we get to the install stage, I will tell you exactly what to do to take control of the installation, and we will help you step-by-step.
Note that, with Malcolm Lewis, caf4926, gogalthorp, and robin_listas joining in here, you are in very good hands.
In my store partition i have things like music (very necessary :D), pics, also i have program files (PHP, .sh), backups of other OS before to install opensuse but nowadays i havenât install it. so everything that you can imagine in a FAT32 partition.
do you need a capture of my HD state with gparted for example?
You should keep in mind I guess that FAT is old, very old and has limitations that has caused me to use NTFS even on some pendrives
I only have one high capacity portable drive in NTFS, necessary for the work I do. But FAT would be out of the question.
One of the applications on it is mini-WinXP. You can boot into that WinXP for the initial stages.
Also, do you have any additional backups of sda2 on another drive or a USB stick or anything? It is a very good idea to have those before messing around with HD structures, partitions, and boot records. Most of the time, there is no problem, but every once in a while things can âblow upâ on you. I would like to know that your data is safe.
If you do not have another backup of sda2 anywhere, I would like to see you find some method to make one or two, just to be safe.
After you have the backup, boot with the Hirenâs CD, then in the mini-WinXP, go to Disk Manager and use it to delete all partitions except for sda2 (probably labelled in some other way, but you should know which one it is).
If you are unsure which partition it is, simply check it in the WinXP file browser, first.
When all other partitions are deleted, I suggest you run the WinXP Chkdsk on that partition to make certain everything is okay. When that is done, run the WinXP defrag tool on it. You want it to be in a good state to make the next step work its best.
After that, go to WinXPâs Disk Manager and use it to shrink that partition as much as it allows, but make sure the size of the partition is an amount that can be divided equally by 1024.
When the shrink process is over, I suggest rebooting into the Hiren disk and into WinXP, just to be certain everything is set and cleared.
Run Chkdsk again to make certain everything has worked properly.
Now go back to Disk Manager and use it to move the partition to the back end of the HD. Make sure that the partition starts on a boundary (that is, the start point should be a number divisible by 1024), even if that leaves a tiny amount of unused disk space after it. If the Disk Manager will not move it, then boot again with GParted and use that to move it.
After moving the partition to the end of the drive, cold boot again into WinXP and run Chkdsk again.
When you have done all of this, post a shot of what GParted shows at that stage (so I can be certain things have gone as expected), and we will continue.
Agreed. But I am leaving any changes to the data partition, except for sizing and moving, until after the rest of the drive is set up. Stick around to throw in any advice or suggestions as we proceed, and thanks for your help.
When I installed openSUSE 13.2 with Btrfs for / and XFS for /home on November 7, 2014, Yast suggested 50 GB for /. I reduced it to 40 GB. Now my system uses only ca. 10 GB. so there is no need for a huge root partition provided that you limit the number of snapshots.
ok, already i know how do all this steps, but when i install opensuse can i install it over other file system like ext4 and not use btrfs? can i avoid that the installer create various sda* like now? because this is really annoying
do you recommend me btrfs and set limit like told opensuseinmanila?
If you are doing an install and NOT an upgrade you can format the partitions with any old FS you want. All you have to do is NOT take the defaults and choose what you want. There is nothing wrong using BTRFS the problem is people donât fully understand the ramifications of using it and it now the default which makes it foisted on new users who understand the possible problems the least. {/rant}
I am not the one to recommend Btrfs. I use it for several reasons: 1) It is cool (not a good reason). 2) It is the default for openSUSE 13.2 and therefore should be mature enough for production use (which it is in my opinion; so far it runs problem free on my machine). 3) When 13.3. will be released I will only have to format the root partition and can keep /home (not a good reason because I went through the process or reformating everyhing with this release). 4) I thought that I had enough experience with Btrfs on virtual machines since openSUSE 13.1 including the problem of a full root partition so that I thought that I can handle it.
