Oh my
What are sda1 and 4?
So i will delete all partitions except my store partition (FAT32 almacen). is there any way to install opensuse without btrfs system? because this disaster made opensuse install system, not me :S
to be honest, i think is the / of opensuse but the 4 i dont know :S
Hi
If the system is working and your happy, then consider leaving it alone?
Can you backup you important data to an external device?
If you consider a re-install, sure you can select other filesystems (I think it did pretty good from the getgo with what it had to work with) via advanced partition settings via the installer partitioner, how much system RAM do you have?
well, finally i deleted all partitions (except fat32 on sda2 because is my store partition) and re-installed opensuse. now its all ok, i think
capture fragmented in 2 parts
http://i61.tinypic.com/md0789.png http://i61.tinypic.com/33fdbgz.png
the big question is: how can i prevent the error “no space left on device” in the future?
Did you notice what kind of filesystem openSUSE “/” was installed on? Btrfs again?
regards
Hi
A friendly reminder that these are help forums, please offer help, else refrain from posting.
The issue is not btrfs, there is nothing wrong with the users btrfs filesystem!
I hate to say different BTRFS does seems stable and ok but it comes married to snapper which I’d say is neat for say an OS developer but normal people just don’t need it. I can not think of any reason in the world to use snapper myself. Unless you truly understand snapper I’d either uninstall it or forget using BTRFS at the moment. We have seen several cases just in the past week of snapper eating all the disk space. And that is just the people that have managed to find the forums and reported.
IMO if you don’t understand the ramifications of snapper just stick with ext4.
I fell this is helping people
On Tue 30 Dec 2014 10:26:01 PM CST, gogalthorp wrote:
I hate to say different BTRFS does seems stable and ok but it comes
married to snapper which I’d say is neat for say an OS developer but
normal people just don’t need it. I can not think of any reason in the
world to use snapper myself. Unless you truly understand snapper I’d
either uninstall it or forget using BTRFS at the moment. We have seen
several cases just in the past week of snapper eating all the disk
space. And that is just the people that have managed to find the forums
and reported.
IMO if you don’t understand the ramifications of snapper just stick with
ext4.
I fell this is helping people
Hi
Yes, snapper is the underlying issue, but also don’t forget that extN is
heading to end of life, at some point support will disappear (just like
32bit)…
In this users case something strange is happening, the disk setup
maybe, also note once they stopped using sudo things started to work…
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On 2014-12-30 23:16, malcolmlewis wrote:
>
> jonte1;2686098 Wrote:
>> Did you notice what kind of filesystem openSUSE “/” was installed on?
>> Btrfs again?
>>
>> regards
> Hi
> A friendly reminder that these are help forums, please offer help, else
> refrain from posting.
>
> The issue is not btrfs, there is nothing wrong with the users btrfs
> filesystem!
?
The issue is that btrfs comes together with snapper, and snapper eats
space. Thus the question that the OP asked:
]> the big question is: how can i prevent the error “no space left on
]> device” in the future?
… needs that the question about btrfs being used or not be answered
first. Thus it is a pertinent question, IMHO.
The other question is how big is that partition, because “/” should be
at least 50 GB if btrfs (with snapper) is used.
Once we know that, we can try to help the OP with his question.
And as we found in this thread, clearing space in a btrfs partition is
far from trivial and different from the advice we have been giving for
decades: Hendrik mentioned that metadata space might have been spent;
then we have to do something complicated to delete snapshots, and
something else to re-balance the partition - issues that are completely
new to me, with complicated commands.
I don’t think using btrfs is wrong, but it is indeed an important
consideration.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-12-31 00:30, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Hi
> Yes, snapper is the underlying issue, but also don’t forget that extN is
> heading to end of life, at some point support will disappear (just like
> 32bit)…
Huh? I don’t think so, not in the near future. I have not seen an
official statement about that. There have been similar statements about
reiserfs back in 2006, and is it still living…
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
Hi
Not official, but an indication 
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-10/msg00197.html
Also note the developers 2008 comment in ‘Criticism’ (I wonder what the thought is now?): ext4 - Wikipedia
First, your root (/) partition (sda6) should be larger. Make it at least 40-Gigs, or maybe go for 50-Gigs.
Then, you need to control Snapper, adjust some of its settings.
Since you have only just re-installed, and have done not much in setting up since then, I would suggest you delete all partitions again, except your store partition.
Your disk can be better-structured than you currently have it.
If you are willing to do that, just post a reply here and wait for my response. I will give you precise instructions how to set up your partitions and how to re-install openSUSE for a more solid performance experience.
Are you willing to do this?
I don’t need use btrfs some special, i installed btrfs because de installer did it. i have a HD of 400GB
But i dont take control of installation, is the installer that took control while it was installing the OS :S
How can i control snapper, ¿is there some GUI?
Yes i’m willing to do this, the problem is re-install programs, settings, cp files from store to /home/user, but ok, i’m willing 
You can reinstall but leave the home partition not to be formatted. This will keep the users data and settings. You will neeed to assume control and tell the installer what you want. You do not have to take the defaults
for options on snapper type man snapper at a konsole window
On 2014-12-31 15:16, beginsuse wrote:
> But i dont take control of installation, is the installer that took
> control while it was installing the OS :S
You take control just by saying that you take it.
The installer just makes a proposal, you accept it, or you change it, or
you make your own, from scratch. Advanced options.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-12-31 16:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2014-12-31 15:16, beginsuse wrote:
>
>> But i dont take control of installation, is the installer that took
>> control while it was installing the OS :S
>
> You take control just by saying that you take it.
>
> The installer just makes a proposal, you accept it, or you change it, or
> you make your own, from scratch. Advanced options.
https://activedoc.opensuse.org/book/opensuse-reference/chapter-1-installation-with-yast
1.10.2 Custom Partitioning #
3.1 Using the YaST Partitioner #
or:
https://activedoc.opensuse.org/book/opensuse-start-up/chapter-1-installation-quick-start
1.3 Installing openSUSE #
Step 9.
Do you see the photo of the installation? Just click on a section of the
install proposal (green text) and change it…
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
On 2014-12-31 04:36, malcolmlewis wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2686132 Wrote:
>> Huh? I don’t think so, not in the near future. I have not seen an
>> official statement about that. There have been similar statements about
>> reiserfs back in 2006, and is it still living…
>>
> Hi
> Not official, but an indication 
> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-10/msg00197.html
>
+++—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-
ext4 on the other hand was designed for previoius generation
computers. Although it can scale to the sizes needed today, it simply
was not designed to handle that heavy workloads and massive scaling
that modern laptops and desktops can demand. As such, ext4 is rapidly
approaching end of life.
The envisioned replacement for ext4 for the last several years has
been btrfs. Unfortunately, btrfs has not yet achieved the performance
levels needed to take on heavy workloads.
—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-+±
Heh. But the current heavy load replacement for ext4 is XFS, not btrfs,
as it is not up to speed :-p
> Also note the developers 2008 comment in ‘Criticism’ (I wonder what the
> thought is now?): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
Yes, I saw that one.
But I don’t see ext4 as going out anytime soon, as it simply is more
reliable in actual usage, more widely supported (example: think of the
problems with grub in some situations), and certainly better understood
by administrators and support people (ie, us).
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
well, what is better filesystem? ext4 or btrfs? my computer is x32 bits and use it just for programming and learn to programming. just i need an OS stable and secure. i dont need playgames, only listen some music, and programming, this is why i though opensuse is my OS, am i wrong?
Well if you don’t know or don’t need the BTRFS bells and whistles stick with the old ext4 it is fine and you should have no surprises. Head to head they give more or less the same timings on read and write. In any case not human noticeable. BTRFS appears reliable but there are some system integration problems that you may never see or may be a total thorn in your side. A BTRFS install includes a program called snapper that does periodic snap shoots. If you select BTRFS and use snapper (on by default) you will at best guess at the moment need 2X the normal space used for the root partition. So 40 gig as a minimum. If you use less snapper might fill the partition and will cause you hart ache.
Go for ext4.
You dont need or have the use of the benefits or hassles from brtfs. My personal opinion.
regards