My company give me Lenevo ThinkPad E590 with 4GB of RAM and CPU intel CORE i3.
I installed on in last Manajro with Gnome and Ubuntu 20.04
sometimes when I open many app and browser . my system Freez and I can not use it and I have to Turn off it by power key and turn on it again by power key.
My company can not change RAM to 8GB or more.
what is best recommendation for use this ThinkPad?
can I install on this ThinkPad opensuse and use it without problem?
I had random freez by Manajro and Ubuntu.
which version of opensuse is right for my ThinkPad
Hi, I have a test install of Leap 15.2 Gnome on an old laptop with just 2 GB of RAM, so I don’t think that 4GB is the real problem.
Sure, you cannot expect to have Firefox open with 20+ tabs and have spectacular speed with that, but a properly configured system should not “freeze”.
Maybe you have a badly configured swap (or no swap at all?) and with extreme conditions a system might take 10+ minutes to recover normal operation, which looks very similar to a “freeze” to the casual user.
I cannot comment about other distros, but if you install Leap or Tumbleweed and you still face problems you can ask for help here.
Be prepared to describe exactly your configuration and what you technically mean by “freeze”.
Thanks, nice guide.
when my system Freez I can not do not anything by ThinkPad. I can not open Terminal and type reboot. I can not switch from gnome to terminal . when my system freez everything stop working and I have too shutdwon system by power key
We have a ThinkPad E550 with 4GB of RAM and CPU intel CORE i5, and 500 GB mechanical hard drive. It dual boots Windows 10 and openSUSE Leap 15.1. We use openSUSE almost exclusively, and it works great. If you are looking for stability, I recommend Leap instead of Tumbleweed.
Thanks
I will test it. which version is better ? Gnome or KDE or XFCE?
Desktop choice is strictly personal preference. I started with KDE long ago because it was (at the time) SuSE’s default. I still prefer KDE, in part because of Dolphin, in part because I have already learned useful features in Krusader and Konqueror, and am not inclined to learn a new desktop. Lots of people in the forum use Gnome, and a fair number use Xfce. Enjoy testing.
Regards,
XFCE is the lightest of the three and more suited to systems with limited resources. KDE is less hungry for RAM than Gnome these days (about 450 MB vs 1050 MB with just the desktop running, but firefox alone easily exceeds that with a few tabs open).
Other than that, all are excellent desktops and you’ll find help here on all of them in case of need, so it is largely a matter of personal taste.
Given this, I would give RAM a thorough workout (many hours) with memtest86 before expecting a switch to openSUSE to help. Even brand new RAM can be bad.
Some E590 models are equipped with a Radeon GPU. Does this describe yours?
Thanks
My ThinkPad has only Intel GPU
this is specification of my ThinkPad in Manjaro
Machine: Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20NB0057UE v: ThinkPad E590 serial: <filter>
Mobo: LENOVO model: 20NB0057UE serial: <filter> UEFI: LENOVO v: R0YET32W (1.15 ) date: 06/10/2019
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.8 Wh condition: 48.2/45.3 Wh (106%) model: SMP 01AV446 status: Discharging
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-8145U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake rev: C L2 cache: 4096 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 18406
Speed: 900 MHz min/max: 400/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 900 2: 900 3: 900 4: 900
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.8 driver: i915 resolution: <xdpyinfo missing>
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 620 (WHL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.1.3 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel Cannon Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:1f.3
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.19-2-MANJARO
Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Lenovo driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 2000
bus ID: 04:00.0
IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 05:00.0
IF: wlp5s0 state: up mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: ip_vti0 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-2: ppp0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives: Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 102.16 GiB (11.0%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172 size: 931.51 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 915.60 GiB used: 102.16 GiB (11.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0 C mobo: 0.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Info: Processes: 255 Uptime: 35m Memory: 3.69 GiB used: 1.64 GiB (44.3%) Init: systemd Compilers: gcc: 10.1.0 Shell: zsh
v: 5.8 inxi: 3.0.37
Not really sure, but this seems to tell us that you are operating the system with no swap. If that is really the case, operating a system with 4GB RAM and no swap is not a good practice nowadays.
Even a peak use of near to 4GB RAM will activate the OOM killer, killing immediately the process that tries to use additional RAM; that should not cause a system freeze normally, but maybe that occasionally depends on what process is killed.
I would recommend setting up a swap partition (even a small one) so that in case of trouble you notice a slowdown before getting to a freeze and you might be able to find out what is happening and possibly remove the root cause.
Thnaks
I added 12GB swapfiles 3 days ago
but today it freez again.
OK, so that doesn’t seem to be the problem.
BTW, unless you have special needs there is little use for a swap space larger than RAM.
Does a freeze occur only when the laptop is connected to the mains or even when operating on battery? A faulty or ageing power supply or a highly noisy mains supply might pass on spikes to the system causing memory errors (or worse).
I once had a laptop that froze whenever connected to the mains and to the phone line (yes, that was in the days when we used modems…)
it Freez when not connected to power and use battery.
if I can find some log about freez. I can understand cause root of Freez and try solve it.
how I can check OOM killer , kill which process?
If you did a default install, no logs about previous boots are recorded on disk. To enable persistent storage of the system journal you have to create a /var/log/journal directory as in the following:
su -
<password for root>
md /var/log/journal
chown :systemd-journal /var/log/journal
From the following boot the system journal will be saved on disk, so that when the system freezes you will be able to reboot (or shutdown - boot) and then see the journal for the previous boot issuing:
journalctl -b -1
To see all the records of the system journal you should do that as superuser, or add your normal user to the systemd-journal group.
I would not touch that unless I was very sure of what I am doing. Please consider that:
- we do not know at the moment if your problem is linked to an OOM condition (that is only a guess on your side, I don’t know based on what evidence);
- if the swap space you added is indeed working, you should not meet with OOM conditions;
- 4GB RAM is a bit low by today’s standards, but not something to worry about unless you are using RAM hungry applications (photo editing? Video editing?); I can use Gnome for common office tasks with just 2GB of RAM (and 2GB swap);
- a bus read error is far more likely a cause of a random freeze; we still don’t know if that is your case and what might be the likely root cause (did you do any memory check as previously suggested?).
Anyway, if you want to learn a bit about the OOM killer this reference might help you.
I enable it and when run that command I see
Fans all working? all air chanels clear?? Overheating can cause random freezes on heavy loads.
when I run sensors command I see
~ >>> sudo sensors
[sudo] password for mostafa:
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0: +43.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +43.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +42.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 0 RPM
temp1: +42.0°C
temp2: +0.0°C
temp3: +0.0°C
temp4: +0.0°C
temp5: +0.0°C
temp6: +0.0°C
temp7: +0.0°C
temp8: +0.0°C
acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1: +42.0°C (crit = +127.0°C)
iwlwifi_1-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +37.0°C
BAT0-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
in0: 11.11 V
pch_cannonlake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +37.0°C
fan 1 - 0 RPM?? Does fan come on when you put a load in the CPU?? I’d expect some fan at 42 C