Fatal Server Error: No Screens Found

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Hello guys

i dont know what to do anymore, i did a lot how to’s and searched this forum and google for the answer to my problems. I can’t find help so now i’m writing here:

Frist some information about my system:
openSUSE 11.4
2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop
Samsung rv520
i3 4x 2,1 GHZ
geforce 520M
4 GB RAM

Driver 4 my graphics card: NVIDIA DRIVERS 285.05.09 Certified and i installed it in init 3, i just ran the file everything worked perfect (i have gcc, make, kernel-source installed), i did it manually because otherwise i could not get the geforce 520M working.

Repos: I got them from here Paket Repositorys – openSUSE and i have this packages from nvidia installed:

nvidia-computeG02
nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop
X11-video-nvidiaG02

Well, then i have updated openSUSE with the package manager and since then i always get into the init 3 runlevel, no chance to init 5 with su.

I already tried this:

openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users of course nVidia Graphic Hardware drivers…
[erledigt] fatal server error - no screens found - openSuSE Installation - openSUSE Linux - Forum - Hilfe - Anleitungen - Tutorials - openSUSE 11.4 - kostenlose Tipps & Tricks](http://www.opensuse-forum.de/erledigt-fatal-server-error-no-screens-found-opensuse-installation/allgemeines-f17/t3253-f19/) (Watch out german)
I also deleted the # from the last line in this file: permissions.local - permissions in openSUSE - Gitorious - sry i lost the link to the thread, this is the only thing i can remember.

and i wrote a new xorg config file with

nvidia-xconfig

output was:

Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"."]Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
Backed up file ´/etc/X11/xorg.conf´ as ´/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup´
New X configuration file written to ´/etc/X11/xorg.conf´

I often read you should do something with that order:

sax2

but i can not use it, the package sax2-tools is installed but the suse doesn’t recognize it.

In /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Section “Device” Driver saids “nvidia”. I think thats correct?

Maybe you need this information too:

startx

delivers something like that:


... 
Current Operating System: Linux linux-qnyg.lan 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2011-07-21 02:17:24 +0200 i686
...
(EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your system's kernel log for additional error messages.
(EE) NVIDIA:                   system's kernel log for additional error messages.
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0)
(EE) No driver available.

Fatal Server Error: No Screens Found

Pleas consult the X.Org foundation support
...

okay the nothing happens after a while these 3 lines came up:


xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connecto to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error

I guess the package, kernel and driver are the same version so that shouldn’t be a problem, should it?

And yes i copied these outputs from my laptop with the keyboard from my pc, i don’t know how i should get the laptop command line outputs in here. Please i need help!

Greetings
Manu aka FoxDie4711

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please tell us what happens if you boot from a known good (know by doing
this: http://tinyurl.com/455hbml) openSUSE 11.4 Live CD and run from the
live cd…

or tell us, did you have a functional/usable system immediately after
the first boot at the end of the install process?

and, was that a clean, format and install of 11.4, or was it an
“upgrade” laid over a pre-existing linux install…if so, what distro
and version?

you say you installed the nvidia driver by compiling at a init 3 command
line…because otherwise “i could not get the geforce 520M working.”
hmmmm…i wonder what when wrong when (is?) you followed the
instructions here: http://tinyurl.com/37v9y7m

–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

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I had a system which was completely functional till i installed the first updates via the package manager. The oss install was a clean install over a shredded hdd without any other oss’s on it, i used the 11.4 DVD to start it but my source was the internet (195.135.221.134/distribution/11.4/repo/oss). The dvd couldn’t complete the install, it stuck at 25% without a move in 30 min, thats why i used the http method to install it. I guess the reason for my damaged dvd is that i didn’t used the checksum :frowning: I’ve never done this before - i thought that wouldn’t be necessary.

I read my post again - it was a little bit unintelligible. I mean i

followed the instructions here: openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users

but only the

xorg.conf file and xorg.conf.d directory in Linux.

part. :slight_smile: Why not the stuff above this part? Because before my little problem here, i didn’t know this thread, i discovered the thread because i was searching a solution to my problems.

Is there hope or should i download the dvd again witch the mb5 checksum and reinstall openSUSE? Of course, then, with the instructions of Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users… :slight_smile:

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On 10/13/2011 09:46 PM, FoxDie4711 wrote:

> Is there hope or should i download the dvd again witch the mb5 checksum
> and reinstall openSUSE? Of course, then, with the instructions of
> Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users… :slight_smile:

at this point, with the symptoms you describe it is hard to know exactly
what is wrong in your system…it might be possible to fix it, but i
sure can’t do it from here…

probably, the best course of action is to use a known good install disk
(checked via http://tinyurl.com/455hbml) and start over…if you again
have a full stall at 25% then there must be something about your
hardware which is causing extreme problems with the install script…

so, don’t proceed on that path until you determine the reason for the stall!

i’d suggest if you are going to try again, instead of the DVD download,
burn and self test a Live CD version and run it from the CD,
live…and, see how stuff works…if most things work ok, then boot from
the CD again and select to install from it

then, once installed, immediately right click and disable the packagekit
updating applet in the system tray (it is broken), and perform all
software installs via YaST Online Update and Software Management…

and, run for a while with the system as installed and then use the one
click to install the video driver…

–
DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software-
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

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I will do that, no matter what happens, when i’m finished i will edit this post to write the result :slight_smile:

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On 10/14/2011 10:06 AM, FoxDie4711 wrote:
>
> I will do that, no matter what happens, when i’m finished i will edit
> this post to write the result :slight_smile:
>
>
you will find that you can edit for about ten minutes…but, it will be
good to hear how it made out…

i realize now i probably should have pointed you to the excellent
made-for-new-to-openSUSE-folks how tos here:

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/new-user-how-faq-read-only/

especially these three near the top:

NEW Users - openSUSE Pre-install (general) PLEASE READ
NEW Users - openSUSE-11.4 Pre-installation PLEASE READ
Multi-media and Restricted Format Installation Guide

–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

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On 2011-10-14 06:37, DenverD wrote:
> probably, the best course of action is to use a known good install disk
> (checked via http://tinyurl.com/455hbml) and start over…if you again
> have a full stall at 25% then there must be something about your hardware
> which is causing extreme problems with the install script…

Just a note.

You can verify if the downloaded ISO image is bad before burning it; and if
it is bad, there are procedures to repair it without downloading it in full
again.

The second step is, once you know the image is good, to burn and verify the
DVD.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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@robin_listas I read your post too late, i bet repairing the “old” .iso file would have been a lot quicker than downloading it again…

I downloaded the torrent file and did exactly this.

Short version:
Checked the Checksum of the .iso file. everything okay
Burned it, checked with the burning program. everything okay
Checked it with the dvd itself, here is what i got:

Error reading sector 1364530
This DVD is broken.

The DVD is a sony and i burned it with cdburnerxp.

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On 10/14/2011 07:36 PM, FoxDie4711 wrote:
> Short version:
> Checked the Checksum of the .iso file.

so, you know the iso itself is ok…
hmmmm…did you get a perfect match with which, md5 or sha1?

> Burned it, checked with the burning program

burn as slow as possible, use good quality media…
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help#Burn_the_ISO_image.28s.29

> Error reading sector 1364530
> This DVD is broken.

those make really attractive coasters…

if you burn several in a row you kinda have to assume a hardware
problem…unfortunately the DVD burners i’ve had contact with in the
last few years don’t seem to last very long…some folks say to have
two, one for all your reading and a different one used only for writing…

–
DD
Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

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On 2011-10-14 20:57, DenverD wrote:

> if you burn several in a row you kinda have to assume a hardware
> problem…unfortunately the DVD burners i’ve had contact with in the last
> few years don’t seem to last very long…some folks say to have two, one
> for all your reading and a different one used only for writing…

Yes, use the new one for writing, and the old one for reading. It is
possible, if you have the cables and space.

I’ve been told that the lens get deformed in time; it heats and is made of
plastic materials, not glass. I can not certify this assumption, but it
seems reasonable.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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hmmmm…did you get a perfect match with which, md5 or sha1?

Yes with both.

burn as slow as possible, use good quality media…
SDB:Download help - openSUSE

I burned as slow as possible with Cd Burner XP to a Sony DVD.

I will give it a try with a other DVD burner…

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Results:

Burner: Samsung
DVD: Sony DVD +R
Modus: Track at Once
Speed: 2.400 KB/s
Software: Cd Burner XP
OSS: Win 7
DVD Ok: No!

Burner: NEC
DVD: Verbatim DVD -R
Modus: Disc at Once
Speed: 2.400 KB/s
Software: Nero Burning Express (ROM said the iso file is to big)
OSS: Win XP
DVD ok?: Yes!

DVD -,+R big difference, specially in my case?

Installation:

From DVD, added repos, updated all packages with yast, reboot.
Then i installed the nvidia graphics driver with the one klick method, reboot.
Now the x server works but my graphics crad is not recognized i don’t want to do anything wrong because i installed openSUSE largely enouth.
What should i do now, just making a new config file like here (i mean the nvidia xorg.config part)?

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On 10/15/2011 11:56 AM, FoxDie4711 wrote:
>
> Results:
>
> Burner: Samsung
> DVD: Sony DVD +R
> Modus: Track at Once
> Speed: 2.400 KB/s
> Software: Cd Burner XP
> OSS: Win 7
> DVD Ok: No!
>
> Burner: NEC
> DVD: Verbatim DVD -R
> Modus: Disc at Once
> Speed: 2.400 KB/s
> Software: Nero Burning Express (ROM said the iso file is to big)
> OSS: Win XP
> DVD ok?: Yes!
>
> DVD -,+R big difference, specially in my case?
>
>
> Installation:
>
> From DVD, updated all packages with yast, reboot.
> Then i installed the nvidia graphics driver with the ‘one klick
> method’ (http://en.opensuse.org//SDB:NVIDIA_drivers).
> Now the x server works but my graphics crad is not recognized i don’t
> want to do anything wrong because i installed openSUSE largely enouth.
> Whay should i do now, just making a new config file like ‘here’ (
> http://tinyurl.com/335c45f) (i mean the nvidia xorg.config part)?
>
>
go slow! this statement is next to impossible:

“Now the x server works but my graphics card is not recognized”

because X won’t run with recognizing some kind of video capability…so,
what desktop did you install (KDE, Gnome, Xfce, LXDE, other??)

and what makes you think something is wrong with it?

here is a Rule to follow: If it is not broken do NOT fix it.

–
DD
Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems

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I installed KDE, and i think it’s broken because there was the false entry in the Section Devices in Driver was “nv”. I have the NVIDIA driver in use, i know that from the post #14 in here
openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users

Some new news:
I did that SDB:Configuring graphics cards - openSUSE carefully, it dosen’t work, and i’ve done all steps except the 7th one.

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On 2011-10-15 11:56, FoxDie4711 wrote:
> From DVD, updated all packages with yast, reboot.

I don’t understand that statement.
The idea was to install again from scratch, but I have no idea what you did.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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I installed from the dvd over the old system, the old partitions got formatted (4 the frist time it worked :D), then i updated all packages with yast and then i rebooted my pc.

Meanwhile i’m at the same problem as before, i think it wasn’t a bad installation, i guess the problem is the “updating all packages” and the “nvidia graphics driver”. I don’t know if you guys need any error logs but here is Xorg.0.log:

    90.878] 
X.Org X Server 1.9.3
Release Date: 2010-12-13
    90.878] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
    90.878] Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
    90.878] Current Operating System: Linux linux-gl45.site 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2011-07-21 02:17:24 +0200 i686
    90.878] Kernel command line: root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_HN-M500MBB_S2RSJ9EB802113-part3 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_HN-M500MBB_S2RSJ9EB802113-part1 splash=silent quiet vga=0x314
    90.879] Build Date: 07 June 2011  04:32:16AM
    90.879]  
    90.879] Current version of pixman: 0.20.0
    90.879] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
    90.879] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
    90.879] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Oct 15 14:33:05 2011
    90.879] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
    90.879] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
    90.880] (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
    90.880] (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
    90.880] (**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
    90.881] (**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
    90.881] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
    90.881] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
    90.881] (==) Automatically adding devices
    90.881] (==) Automatically enabling devices
    90.881] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
    90.881] 	Entry deleted from font path.
    90.881] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
    90.881] 	Entry deleted from font path.
    90.882] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi" does not exist.
    90.882] 	Entry deleted from font path.
    90.882] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
    90.882] 	Entry deleted from font path.
    90.882] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
    90.882] 	Entry deleted from font path.
    90.882] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi" does not exist.
    90.882] 	Entry deleted from font path.
    90.882] (**) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/URW/,
	/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/truetype/,
	/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/URW/,
	/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/truetype/
    90.882] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    90.882] (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
    90.882] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
    90.882] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
    90.882] (II) Loader magic: 0x8237aa0
    90.882] (II) Module ABI versions:
    90.882] 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
    90.882] 	X.Org Video Driver: 8.0
    90.882] 	X.Org XInput driver : 11.0
    90.882] 	X.Org Server Extension : 4.0
    90.883] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:1050:144d:c597 rev 161, Mem @ 0xf2000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xf0000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x00003000/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/524288
    90.883] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
    90.883] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
    90.883] (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
    90.883] (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
    90.883] (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
    90.883] (II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
    90.883] (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
    90.883] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
    90.884] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so
    90.902] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
    90.902] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
    90.902] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    90.902] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  275.21  Mon Jul 18 14:55:52 PDT 2011
    90.902] (II) Loading extension GLX
    90.902] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
    90.902] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
    90.902] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    90.902] 	compiled for 1.9.3, module version = 1.0.0
    90.902] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    90.902] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
    90.902] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
    90.902] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
    90.903] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
    90.903] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    90.903] 	compiled for 1.9.3, module version = 1.0.0
    90.903] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    90.903] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
    90.903] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
    90.903] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
    90.903] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
    90.903] (II) Loading extension DPMS
    90.903] (II) Loading extension XVideo
    90.903] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
    90.903] (II) Loading extension X-Resource
    90.903] (II) LoadModule: "vnc"
    90.904] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libvnc.so
    90.904] (EE) LoadModule: Module vnc does not have a vncModuleData data object.
    90.904] (II) UnloadModule: "vnc"
    90.904] (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libvnc.so
    90.904] (EE) Failed to load module "vnc" (invalid module, 0)
    90.904] (II) LoadModule: "record"
    90.905] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
    90.905] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    90.905] 	compiled for 1.9.3, module version = 1.13.0
    90.905] 	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    90.905] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
    90.905] (II) Loading extension RECORD
    90.905] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
    90.905] (II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so
    90.905] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  275.21  Mon Jul 18 14:55:52 PDT 2011
    90.905] (II) Loading extension GLX
    90.905] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
    90.906] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
    90.906] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    90.906] 	compiled for 1.9.3, module version = 1.2.0
    90.906] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
    90.906] (II) Loading extension DRI2
    90.906] (II) LoadModule: "dri"
    90.906] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
    90.906] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    90.906] 	compiled for 1.9.3, module version = 1.0.0
    90.906] 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 4.0
    90.906] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
    90.906] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
    90.906] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
    90.907] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
    90.907] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
    90.907] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
    90.909] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your
    90.909] (EE) NVIDIA:     system's kernel log for additional error messages.
    90.909] (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
    90.909] (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
    90.909] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0)
    90.909] (EE) No drivers available.
    90.909] 
Fatal server error:
    90.909] no screens found
    90.909] 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
    90.909] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
    90.909]

i get it when i type in:

startx

after a while, like said before, this shows up:


xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error
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On 10/15/2011 02:46 PM, FoxDie4711 wrote:
>
> I installed from the dvd over the old system, the old partitions got
> formatted (4 the frist time it worked :D), then i updated all packages
> with yast and then i rebooted my pc.
>
> Meanwhile i’m at the same problem as before, i think it wasn’t a bad
> installation, i guess the problem is the “updating all packages”

yes, that is probably the problem, i do not know what you did, but here
is what you SHOULD have done:

first: the system should already be fully updated as part of the
normal install–IF you were connected to the internet when you installed…

but, to check:

-launch YaST
-on right, click on Online Updater
-accept its recommended installs

*then disable the updater in the task bar, it is broken! just right
click on it and select to never install with it ever!

personally i uninstalled kpackagekit using YaST Software Manager.

with the updater disabled, run YaST Online updater say, once a
week…and, just accept what it says you need or is recommended…

> and the “nvidia graphics driver”.

sorry, you used the wrong how to…with YaST not running, go here:

http://en.opensuse.org//SDB:NVIDIA_drivers

and pick the button which matches your card.

you might be able to do all of that from where you are, but i doubt it…

–
dd

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On 2011-10-15 14:46, FoxDie4711 wrote:

> “nvidia graphics driver”. I don’t know if you guys need any error logs
> but here is Xorg.0.log:

Ok, look:

> Code:
> --------------------
> 90.909] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your
> 90.909] (EE) NVIDIA: system’s kernel log for additional error messages.
> 90.909] (II) UnloadModule: “nvidia”
> 90.909] (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
> 90.909] (EE) Failed to load module “nvidia” (module-specific error, 0)
> 90.909] (EE) No drivers available.
>
> --------------------

That is the error you have to look at. And it suggests another log to check.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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What i did was what you wrote but i went to YaST/Packages/All Packadges/Update if a new package version is found (i hope i translated it right, i installed SuSE in german) NOT the Online Updater, and i was using SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE, post #12 first link.

OpenSuSE need some help in the human computer interaction issue, because how should i know what update method i should use? KPackageKit and YaST/Package/All Packages/Update, if a newer version is found are broken, only Online Update works - how should i smell that or know what the difference is?

Why are there any other (broken) ways to do a update? Or whats the difference? As you maybe see i didn’t get it…

But everything works fine now, thanks a lot you saved my weekend!

THANKS!

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On 10/15/2011 04:36 PM, FoxDie4711 wrote:
>
> What i did was what you wrote but i went to YaST/Packages/All
> Packadges/Update if a new package version is found (i hope i translated
> it right, i installed SuSE in german) NOT the Online Updater, and i was
> using ‘SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE’

i would never recommend doing that…

the next person here may do what you do every day…(and, every other day
or so they have a software mix that has never been tested together and
they get to futz with their system “fixing it”…

i prefer to have a stable environment and only update for security
issues and BIG bugs…i do that NOT in YaST Software Management, but
in YaST Online Updater—two different things to click on on the right
side of the YaST Control Center…

the YaST Online Updater ONLY looks for security and big bug patches
which shows up in the “update” repo…those you need…the ones you are
fetching are problem prone…why? because there are thousands of
programs written by several thousands of folks…each on their own
schedule…they get TESTED as a system and released together with each
new openSUSE release…but, no one is testing them all together every
time one has a little tiny step of progress!

see http://paste.opensuse.org/72791911 and, like i said instead of using
the broken kpackage kit, use YaST Online Updater (the Software Manager
is for use to add new applications (or uninstall them)

> (http://en.opensuse.org//SDB:NVIDIA_drivers), post #12 first link.
>
> OpenSuSE need some help in the human computer interaction issue,
> because how should i know what update method i should use? KPackageKit
> and YaST/Package/All Packages/Update, if a newer version is found are
> broken, only Online Update works - how should i smell that or know what
> the difference is?

well, those are honest and correct observations…and, the short answer
to all of them are:

you ‘smell’ them by learning…reading, trying, asking, staring
over…etc etc etc…

why! this is linux, we are all volunteers, there is no single fearless
leader saying: hey, that how-to must be updated TODAY or you are fired…

the wiki get old and stale every new second that ticks…google the
internet for linux answers and you might (not ‘might’, but WILL) find
answers that are 15 years old that will NOT work today…

heck, there are LOTS of answers in these forums which worked GREAT for
openSUSE 11.1 but will NOT work for 11.4

another thing: here we have FREEDOM…there are lots of ways to do
things…as said, i never do what you did to ‘update’ but there are
folks here who do…i’m free to do it my way, and others are free to do
it there way…there are zero Redmond ‘training wheels’ to make us all
do it ‘their way’…

> Why are there any other (broken) ways to do a update? Or whats the
> difference? As you maybe see i didn’t get it…

YES! all of your questions are good…but, there is now and will always
be folks who think a different way is better…and, lots of folks will
wanna fight you if you take away all the choice which is missing in
other systems…

patience! the learning curve is steep…but worth it…

> But everything works fine now, thanks a lot you saved my weekend!

again, welcome… stick with it…

–
DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software-
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems