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I want to use Leia DS on openSUSE 11.2. Unfortunately this is available only as a debian package or as a .tar.gz file. How can I install this please?
Budgie2

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I want to use Leia DS on openSUSE 11.2. Unfortunately this is available only as a debian package or as a .tar.gz file. How can I install this please?
Budgie2
Budgie2, as I understand it, we can get a file from a supported repository or from an RPM file or compile from source. The latter option can be more difficult that you might know, but it never hurts to give it a try. I was unable to find a file called “Leia DS” using an RPM search or looking in the openSUSE 1-Click service so installing from source may be your only option. So the problem in such a case is satisfying the required dependencies. Most applications are not stand alone and require the support of other application functions to work. For instance, I might write an application that works with KDE, My KillerApp may use and require common KDE Desktop functions in order to work and would not work if KDE were not installed. However, a KDE application intended for a Debian system might compile on a different system like openSUSE if such a combination existed. Don’t forget you often must install the development packages for the general type of application. For instance, again for KDE, there are KDE development packages that can be installed to help compile KDE apps.

Thank You,

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Hi
Do you have a link to the web site with the tar.gz file? If it’s not using non-oss items to build I can use OBS to build for you.

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On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:06:02 +0000, Budgie2 wrote:

> I want to use Leia DS on openSUSE 11.2. Unfortunately this is available
> only as a debian package or as a .tar.gz file. How can I install this
> please?

If it’s not available as an RPM, then you’ll need to install from the tgz
or use something like alien to convert it to an RPM.

But it’s not likely to be easy, since there would be no dependency
information, so getting the proper libraries installed will take more
work.

Jim

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Hi Malcolm,
Thanks for the offer. If you google “leia ds” you get the author’s website which has a good deal of info and this link to the download directory:- Directory listing
I would like to install initially on my laptop so the i386 version should be correct.
Of course I would also like to learn how to build the rpm myself but have no idea how long it would take. Perhaps if you have time to help?

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Malcolm,
Further to my last post I think I may be off with Kinsky Desktop. This also is available in .deb package or tar.gz but it is no longer in beta whereas leia ds is still beta.
I suspect the build process is similar and the download is available from linn.co.uk.
They say I will need mono installed which is available but exactly which of the many mono packages I have no idea. Perhaps you will know.
Regards,
Budgie2

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Hi
I won’t be back home until tomorrow, but have looked at the svn and it shouldn’t be too hard to build.

Will look at after the weekend for you.

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Hi Malcolm and many thanks. If you are able to help, please could you look at the Kinsy desktop first.
Regards,
Budgie2

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Hi
Am looking today, little sidetracked on some other issues :wink:

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Hi
Making progress, just waiting for the build service to rebuild my nsis package (Factory builds going on, so it’s slow at the moment), then hopefully get a build of KinskyDesktop3.3.x_Maintenance from the svn branch.

I tried from the latest svn main, but there are some issues with it that I can’t seem to get around.

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Hi Malcolm,
Thanks for the progress report and for giving up time for my problem.
At some point I hope to understand all this but am just content for now that you are moving forward.
Best wishes,
Budgie2

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Hi
OK, the main issue I was having with is NSIS (Main Page - NSIS) which has now been built (still some minor packaging issues to sort) and is functional. So now it’s the desktop that I need to work through may be a few more days though…

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Hi
Got annoyed with it so try this one out…
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=kinskydesktop&baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.3&lang=en&include_home=true&exclude_debug=true

It’s the deb file with openSUSE fixes for a few things…
https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=testing10&project=home%3Amalcolmlewis%3ATesting

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Hi Malcolm,
Many thanks again.
The first link works but I should have said I use 11.2 not 11.3. Does that matter? I ask before trying the one click install.
The second link didn’t get me to an rpm. Should it have Sorry to be so dumb.
Budgie2

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Hi
Grab he first link, whilst it’s built as an 11.3 rpm, it will work on
11.2.

I’ve logged a bug with Linn on the issue…

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Hi Malcolm,
Many many thanks for the work you are doing on my behalf. At some point I shall need to read up on this so I know what to do next time.
Meanwhile I tried the one click install from the first link. Kinsky desktop is now there on my machine OK but will not run. It tries for a while and then just stops. Where next?
Regards,
Budgie2

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Hi
Open a terminal and run the command;


KinskyDesktop

Do you get output?

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I do. Here it is:-

:~> KinskyDesktop

** (/usr/lib/KinskyDesktop/KinskyDesktop.exe:3858): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /usr/lib/KinskyDesktop/KinskyDesktop.exe could not be loaded:
Assembly: System.Windows.Forms (assemblyref_index=1)
Version: 2.0.0.0
Public Key: b77a5c561934e089
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr/lib/KinskyDesktop/).

** (/usr/lib/KinskyDesktop/KinskyDesktop.exe:3858): WARNING **: Could not load file or assembly ‘System.Windows.Forms, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089’ or one of its dependencies.

** (/usr/lib/KinskyDesktop/KinskyDesktop.exe:3858): WARNING **: Missing method EnableVisualStyles in assembly /usr/lib/KinskyDesktop/KinskyDesktop.exe, type System.Windows.Forms.Application

Unhandled Exception: System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly ‘System.Windows.Forms, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089’ or one of its dependencies.
File name: ‘System.Windows.Forms, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089’

Plenty of clues but I have no idea what is going on. Can I assume that KinskyDesktop has been ported from Windows to Linux?
Tell me what to do next when you have a chance.
Best wishes and thanks again.
Budgie2

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Hi
Looks like mono winforms is missing;


sudo zypper in mono-winforms

Yes, sort of it’s a .net application

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Hi Malcolm,
Many thanks. I recall reading that mono was required but was not confident just to install it. Anyhow I have run your instruction and now I have mono, KinskyDesktop opens and tries to run but rapidly locks up. I shall try again but are there any log files I can post which would help?
It just occurred to me that you may not have any suitable client hardware. I am using Linn Sneaky DS as a known working client but so far this installation of Kinsky has failed to pick it up. I shall keep trying and report back.
Many thanks once more.
Budgie2