Already updated? What do you think of 11.4

I can’t stand the new KMix. There isn’t a single channel with which I
could control all applications’ volume level in one.

Quite allright otherwise, Plasma seems to be stable in every aspect at
last, and Firefox 4 looks especially promising.

All in all, I’m satisfied.

Yes. I agree. The new kmix is messy

Single left-click on KMix’s system tray speaker icon - doesn’t that do it for you?

> Single left-click on KMix’s system tray speaker icon - doesn’t that do
> it for you?

It doesn’t. I have two “output devices”, a digital Radeon and an
analogue Intel. With the Intel device set as “master channel”, I can
control the volume level of Amarok, the system sounds, and MuseScore
(which uses ALSA). However, it’s pretty unstable, somewhen the system
sounds and more oftenly ALSA stucks at a volume level what can’t be
changed from KMix. And I can’t control any Xine based (e.g. Kaffeine)
thingies without switching the master channel to Radeon.

Personally I find it utterly useless. Thankfully I found advice to try Pavucontrol.

I really, really like almost every other feature of 11.4, but Kmix is simply not up to the standard I’ve come to expect from either OpenSUSE or KDE.

Hmm, sounds tricky! Any better using alsamixer in a terminal? What about installing “pavucontrol” (assumes using PulseAudio). :slight_smile:

2011-03-14 22:06 keltezéssel, consused írta:
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> lipk;2304298 Wrote:
>>
>> It doesn’t. I have two “output devices”, a digital Radeon and an
>> analogue Intel. With the Intel device set as “master channel”, I can
>> control the volume level of Amarok, the system sounds, and MuseScore
>> (which uses ALSA). However, it’s pretty unstable, somewhen the system
>> sounds and more oftenly ALSA stucks at a volume level what can’t be
>> changed from KMix. And I can’t control any Xine based (e.g. Kaffeine)
>> thingies without switching the master channel to Radeon.
> Hmm, sounds tricky! Any better using alsamixer in a terminal? What
> about installing “pavucontrol” (assumes using PulseAudio). :slight_smile:
>
>
Maybe I wasn’t clear about this, but all the KMix thing is just a minor
annoyance. I rarely use Kaffeine and MuseScore, and the mentioned crash
occurs just once every four or five sessions (and even then I can
control Amarok, the only important applictaion, through its own volume
meter).

So I really appreciate your helpfulness but it isn’t worth start
hacking. Due to the occasional nature of the bug, it would take very
long time to get certain about whether it had any effect at all or not.
(And if after that long time, the problem came out again I would be
really CONSUSED… you wouldn’t like that, would you? :))

Or in one word: I am lazy.

Thanks for the tips, anyway.

I love it!
Easiest install ever and at last I have access to my USB devices without having to get superuser access.
OpenShot video editor doesn’t work and I’m not sure if I can be bothered taking the time to get accelerated graphics going on my old Nvidia FX5200.
Boot is quicker, everything seems snappier but have had a couple of applications stop.
New Firefox is not how I like it but seems to work OK. Once I get used to it and figure out where everything is I’ll be OK with it.
I’d give it 9/10 for install and usability, time will tell if it gets flakey like 11.3 over time;)

Me too. But I’ve fathomed my sound issues to being a pulseaudio / maudio issue which basically means that I need to disable Pulseaudio to get sound. Not ideal, but I get the same from every other distro using Pulse. Hopefully the hackers of pulse will sort this as it is a major issue for me (yes I’ve raised a bug report). The problem is that pulse only recognises the digital output capability of this device and not the analogue that I use and need. If there are any clever people that can sort this I would be really grateful!

ps For those unaware, M-Audio design some really cool sounding Audiophile soundcards (that used to work out of the box with Linux). I am really keen on getting this sorted so any advice is gratefully received. Thanks in advance!

I now have 11.4 on three machines - an old 32 bit laptop (my test machine), and my 64 bit desktop and laptop. Overall, I’m happy. It will take a few days to try everything out, and see what I forgot to install.

For the 32 bit, I installed from the KDE live CD. For the two 64 bit systems, I installed from the NET CD. It is a bit slower, but the install from the NET CD is smoother and more congenial.

Incidently, I moved to an encrypted “/home” and encrypted swap, while installing. A couple of false starts on my first try with the 32 bit system, but apart from that it seems to have gone well.

I am now thinking about using the test machine for tumbleweed (or even factory).

If that’s OK for you, whatever that means, it’s fine with me. :slight_smile: BTW, “con” as an older English word means “study, learn”, as in “he conned well”.

I suppose I just got used to not having the occasional crash on standard openSUSE. :wink:

> If that’s OK for you, whatever that means, it’s fine with me.

It’s always a delight for me to find a compromise acceptable for
everybody :wink:

I think its good. It installed from the DVD almost flawlessly. The surprise and big headache was the clean install didn’t allow me to use my old /var partition, requiring me to manually copy, diff and patch folders and files. >:(

There’s some features, gnome-shell, that I was unaware of brought to my attention.
I really like the new background changer.
There’s some nice gadgets Oragle Calendar?

Currently working through the multimedia curse, ie, won’t play DVDs regardless of player.
And a few other curses.

**It’s awesome! **

I have 2 systems - KDE and Fluxbox and both work very well. I love openSUSE!
Thanks to all, who help to develop and contribute to openSUSE project!

1st thing i had it froze when starting the dvd with udev, while i plugged out my laptop cooling fan it went further in installation… when it was installed I had problems with the audio, was default to hdmi …
then I fired up amarok to play a mp3, and it crashed when I closed Amarok, further it works flawlessly

BTW I voted buggy… becos I also got weird messages bout one of my cpu cores from udev… no noticable drawdowns thow

I voted so good so far, now I’m thinking above buggy, more gotchas. I skipped 11.3 installs for a clean install of a 11.4 upgrade from 11.1.

11.1 and 11.2 had Personal File Sharing that immediately connected a folder you could share by CIFS network without configuring the smb.conf along with BlueTooth.
In 11.4 there’s only the BlueTooth connection offered. (WTF BlueTooth?)

Still can’t play copy protected DVDs, after reloading from Packman. I’ve changed my repos once and their priorities again but I’m not ready to tackle the DVD problem again.

Otherwise, the bells and whistles still look great, screens look crisp, though still working through applications.

During the install 11.4 wouldn’t allow me to use my /var partition unless I formatted it, which was a no-no for me.
Synchronizing that partition was an learning experience, caused by me trying to use that as a shortcut, instead of backing up and restoring the data on /var. <- A word of advice.

I voted terrible, Only because there is so many bugs, I can live with some bugs , That is a given.
Could be my year old hardware, But I do not think so. This release is by far the buggyest I have install.
KDE and Gnome. I will have to live with it because I am not going anywhere. Looking forward to the next release already.

I voted terrible, Only because there is so many bugs, I can live with some bugs , That is a given.
Could be my year old hardware, But I do not think so. This release is by far the buggyest I have install.

What bugs have affected your install? Do you just mean hardware that’s not supported ‘out-of-the-box’? Can you please elaborate?

Playback here works flawlessly
Region whatever…they all work
I grabbed some I had some difficulty with in the past and they just worked too…