Patience is not normally one of my virtues, however I’m holding out…
I fear because of 12.1 the Linux Action Show people are going to tear OpenSUSE apart even worse than they traditionally do Fedora. 
On 11/11/11 12:26, chucktr wrote:
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> Cloddy;2402758 Wrote:
>> On 11/11/11 10:06, zynks wrote:
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>>> Has anyone tested the goldmaster? I know it is not made public but
>> the
>>> ones who have access to it might share the experience. If so, any
>> issues
>>> or bugs that were still in rc2?
>>>
>>
>> I haven’t yet been notified of a fix to a deal-breaker for me, Gnucash,
>> so I guess some RC2 bugs will still be gracing us with their presence.
>>
>
> May I ask… are the notifications automatic and personal -or- do they
> get sent out by the developer?? IF the later then it could be he/she
> forgot or hasn’t had time to send out the Update notices… and it might
> be fixed. I have found in the past that items not apparently fixed in
> the last available code for the General Public to test with… were
> fixed in the Final Release. So you might inquire to the Restricted
> Elite who get to test the GM -or- just wait for the Final to make your
> final decisions. Just some thoughts.
> Take care,
> Chuck
>
I’m going by the bugzilla e-mails that I get whenever a bug report of
mine, or one in which I’ve contributed, has been updated. As you say,
it’s possible a fix has been made but, in the last-minute dash, there
hasn’t been time to update the bug report. I live in hope. 
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Cloddy,
Rather than quote and waste a lot of space I’ll just say this is in regards to the conversations about the update notices.
Hopefully, for your sake and the sake of SuSE most of the bugs have been fixed and just not reported. As others have said, we need to get our act together and get some clean working code to offer our “new clients”.
Take care -but- have fun,
Chuck
I found out that the alt key has been replaced with the Command key on my Apple keyboard. So now keyboard shortcuts are working.
12.1 RC2 even with the current updates is giving my Thinkpad T-42 indigestion. The splash screen does weird flip-flops to black and white,and the system setting window opens (in Gnome), but never populates w/anything. KDE seems okay. Lets hope that the final release is better than what is on the servers at the moment.
Relax
So far the only issue I see so far is the Admin Auth request window not coming to the front of the windows.
Otherwise 12.1 final is looking good
jos poortvliet’s blog describes KMail as having serious memory issues.
“There is a problem with the akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder (yes, feeds mail from Akonadi in Nepomuk for indexing and search) where the queue fills up memory. My 6GB of mail surely doesn’t fit in my 2GB ram so that’s painful! But it fills up slowly while processing mail so restarting it every 30 min during the night (akonadictl restart) gave it a chance to index all my mails. And this problem is being worked on… Less nice is the constant use of memory (MySQL alone is 120 MB)…”
I don’t know why they didn’t hold off on upgrading KMail, the same way they kept 11.3’s KMail for 11.4 because of bugs. :\
Aaactually…the “Black Windows” bug has been reported on previous distros that have moved to Gnome 3.x AND does appear to be memory related. Older video cards have this issue as do older laptops with limited graphics memory.
I’m in total agreement with you Caf this is going to good.
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:06:02 GMT
zynks <zynks@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
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> Has anyone tested the goldmaster? I know it is not made public but the
> ones who have access to it might share the experience. If so, any
> issues or bugs that were still in rc2?
>
>
Here’s the latest state of affairs.
http://jaegerandi.blogspot.com/2011/11/just-three-more-days-until-release-of.html
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Quick 12.1 question - Is Handbrake available on the 64 bit version?
That is all. 
Really looking forward to the release.
On 13.11.2011 16:26, Kinzie wrote:
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> Quick 12.1 question - Is Handbrake available on the 64 bit version?
>
> That is all. Really looking forward to the release.
>
>
You could find that out by browsing 12.1 Packman repo.
But yes, it’s there
Vahis
http://waxborg.servepics.com
openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) 2.6.37.6-0.9-default main host
openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) 3.1.0-1.2-desktop in VirtualBox
openSUSE 11.4 (i586) 3.1.0-47-desktop “Tumbleweed” in EeePC 900
On 11/12/2011 11:56 PM, Sagemta wrote:
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> caf4926;2403299 Wrote:
>> Relax
>> So far the only issue I see so far is the Admin Auth request window not
>> coming to the front of the windows.
>> Otherwise 12.1 final is looking good
> I’m in total agreement with you Caf this is going to good.
The problem with hidden authorization windows is bnc#727857. If you can
contribute anything there, please do. I have not found a work around. If you
have, please let me know.
I also agree that 12.1 will be good. The only people that will be unhappy are
those that have some unusual configuration, and either failed to test, or tested
but failed to enter a bugzilla entry.
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:20:13 GMT
Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net> wrote:
> On 11/12/2011 11:56 PM, Sagemta wrote:
> >
> > caf4926;2403299 Wrote:
> >> Relax
> >> So far the only issue I see so far is the Admin Auth request
> >> window not coming to the front of the windows.
> >> Otherwise 12.1 final is looking good
> > I’m in total agreement with you Caf this is going to good.
>
> The problem with hidden authorization windows is bnc#727857. If you
> can contribute anything there, please do. I have not found a work
> around. If you have, please let me know.
>
> I also agree that 12.1 will be good. The only people that will be
> unhappy are those that have some unusual configuration, and either
> failed to test, or tested but failed to enter a bugzilla entry.
>
That’s a sweeping generalisation, Larry. I assume you to mean that the
base system will work OK but don’t expect all the basic applications to
work. For instance, Pan and Gnucash were not fully functional at RC2
stage and the bugs haven’t been reported as solved yet. Still, there’s
all of 3 days to go so not to worry.
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
On 11/13/2011 09:54 AM, Cloddy wrote:
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> That’s a sweeping generalisation, Larry. I assume you to mean that the
> base system will work OK but don’t expect all the basic applications to
> work. For instance, Pan and Gnucash were not fully functional at RC2
> stage and the bugs haven’t been reported as solved yet. Still, there’s
> all of 3 days to go so not to worry.
Of course it is a generalization, but I’m really disturbed with people that do
not test until RC2 is released, and then demand that GM be delayed until their
favorite program works. Where were they at MS5 when there was time to fix
things. The rules are pretty clear that the things that are fixed between RC2
and GM are bugs that prevent installation, or cannot be fixed by an update.
If you don’t realize it yet, the contents of the release were locked last Friday
on 11/11/11. The time until the public release date is used for mirror
propagation and publicity preparation. The contents of the iso’s will not change.
Yeah sorry about that. I couldn’t find it in the searches. Thanks for the confirmation anyway. 
Wrong,
A fresh install of 12.1 RC 2 will NOT start your network, wireless or wired. You have to MANUALLY verify the settings, then save for the network to start. This is a well documented bug.
Bug 708214 still seems to be a problem which might bite some people. Nobody other than me has commented on the bug report, so I’m not sure who else is affected.
However, you are right that I am not unhappy. It affects only a test install on an alternate partition, but not my main system. I may switch that test install over to tumbleweed or factory, to see what happens with future kernels.
Well, I tested both RC1 and RC2 and have been demanding they delay this release a month based on the testing of both RCs. This rev of OpenSuSe is NOT ready for prime time. Simply leaving either LibreOffice open on a document or Mozilla open on a page like Yahoo overnight will cause system lockups and crashes. If you toggle between three tabs in Mozilla pasting information from one to another for more than a few iterations, you guessed it, hard lock again.
THIS RELEASE NEEDS TO BE DELAYED TWO MONTHS.
Developers need to forget about working on the “next” revision and focus on cleaning up ALL of the application bugs. Some of these bugs have been pushed back and passed over for years with the package maintainers hoping they will magically disappear on their own.
This release is a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way from stable.
This release is an even looooooooooooooooooooooooonger way from being usable as a corporate desktop.
The Gnome version will never again be usable as a corporate desktop, so you already have a shrinking installed base with this release. Why? Whoever thought removing icons from the desktop was a good idea was obviously dropped on their head too many times as an infant.
CORPORATE DESKTOPS rely heavily on placing icons on end user desktops SO THEY ONLY DO WHAT THEY’RE TOLD. They don’t want people who know how to install stuff on their own and they don’t want users poking around menus finding other things (like games) they could be running.