YaST > Hardware > Hardware Information missing on fresh installed system

I have 15.3 running on a system that has the YaST > Hardware > Hardware Information menu item. I just installed another system with a fresh 15.3 and that item is missing from YaST.

If there is any relation, the package yast2-hardware-detection is installed in both systems.

Any thoughts?

My main desktop has that hardware information item. It was installed during the Beta phase – March 05, 2021.

Looking at 15.3 in a virtual machine, that item is missing. It was installed more recently (I’m not sure when). It’s possible that is missing because it is a virtual machine.

Thanks Neil,

This is no virtual machine. It is a laptop (my first, a 10 year old one, that works like a charm with openSUSE, but was unable to move with any speed with Windows 7 by it’s former owner).

My desktop, that has it, is upgraded since at least 15.1 (maybe even from 42,last). Can it be a leftover?
In that case it should be somewhere in a (may old) release doc.

Does as root:

yast2 hwinfo

is working?

No, I tried that earlier (and should have s aid that). It says

No such client module hwinfo

And it works on the other system.

It seems the package “yast2-hardware-detection” isn’t (or wasn’t) pulled at a clean install. I remember there was a thread some time ago:

https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/555451-Yast-Hardware-Information?highlight=hwinfo

I guess

zypper in yast2-hardware-detection

should do the trick.

Please re-read post #1 above from start to end.

Ah, well. We have a German saying: “Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil!”. :shame:

What about the package “yast-tune” mentioned furhter down in the other thread?

But reading the thread you point to, the advice is to intstall yast2-tune.

Which I did.

And now the module is shown and functions.

Strange that it isn’t anymore installed by default at a fresh installation.

See inside the rpm:

rpm -ql yast2-tune

There is the hwinfo…

Now I have that hardware list and I can not find what I searched for (the laptops camera). :frowning:

But in the meantime,using VLC, I know now it is functioning, so I am satisfied more or less.

I always found it interesting that my laptop’s camera is found by inxi -G. But then, it’s also found by hwinfo and lsusb:

**~ #** inxi -G 
**Graphics:  Device-1:** Intel UHD Graphics 620 **driver:** i915 **v:** kernel  
           **Device-2:** NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] **driver:** nvidia **v:** 390.147  
           **Device-3:** Quanta HD Webcam **type:** USB **driver:** uvcvideo  
           **Display:****server:** X.Org 1.20.3 **driver:****loaded:** modesetting,nvidia **resolution:** 1920x1080~60Hz  
           **OpenGL:****renderer:** GeForce MX150/PCIe/SSE2 **v:** 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.147  
**pluto:~ #** lsusb 
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub 
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0408:a060 Quanta Computer, Inc. HD Webcam 
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:3015 Lite-On Technology Corp. Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Bluetooth 
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub 
**pluto:~ #** hwinfo | grep Webcam 
  E: ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=HD **Webcam**
  E: ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=HD **Webcam**
  E: ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=HD **Webcam**
  Model: "Quanta HD **Webcam**" 
  Device: usb 0xa060 "HD **Webcam**" 
**pluto:~ #**

Any findings with inxi or lsusb?

Ok, we are getting a bit off-topic now (the topic was: where is the Hardware Information in YaST).

On that system:

beweeg:~ # hwinfo | grep cam
  E: ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=Gateway Webcam
  E: ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=Gateway Webcam
  E: ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=Gateway Webcam
  Model: "ALi Gateway Webcam"
  Device: usb 0x9665 "Gateway Webcam"
beweeg:~ # lsusb
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0402:9665 ALi Corp. Gateway Webcam
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c077 Logitech, Inc. M105 Optical Mouse
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
beweeg:~ #

So the camera is there.

I did not do the hwinfo earlier, but I am sure I did lsusb before I was starting this thread. But for some reason I did NOT see that line with “ALi Corp. Gateway Webcam”. Either it wasn’t there (rather unvelievable), or I had some sort of senior moment (more understandable. with my age).

In any case, the camera is not only visible as a roundel at the top of the screen, I can also use it with VLC Capture, thus I assume it will work with Teams/Zoom/Skype.

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Back to the original problem, I still find it strange that a feature in YaST that was earlier installed with it at system installation, is now not installed. Is this a bug to be reported?

The ISO I used:

openSUSE-Leap-15.3-2-DVD-x86_64-Build24.5-Media.iso

which is not the original ISO from the time that Leap 15.3 was released, but (as the new policy is) a remastered one with all the patches/updates until it’s creation date (see the Build #).

This ISO is still available for download and yast2-tune is there - the same version BTW as I still have installed:

:~> zypper se -s yast2-tune 
Repository 'Packman Repository' ist veraltet. Sie können 'zypper refresh' als root ausführen, um es zu aktualisieren. 
Repository-Daten werden geladen... 
Installierte Pakete werden gelesen... 

S | Name       | Type  | Version    | Arch   | Repository 
--+------------+-------+------------+--------+----------------------- 
i | yast2-tune | Paket | 4.3.1-1.39 | x86_64 | Haupt-Repository (OSS)

Probably the installer didn’t pull it with the fresh install?
I have no idea if that’s worth a bug report - if the assumption is correct.