XTerm

ex-para · July 18, 2011, 12:05pm

Is Xterm in opensuse 11.3 the only means of using the the commands such as consol in Ubuntu or dos in windows. The reason I ask is because I am unable to copy & past into Xterm.

please_try_again · July 18, 2011, 12:49pm

What about selecting text with the mouse to copy and clicking the middle button (usually the wheel) to paste ?

ex-para · July 18, 2011, 1:09pm

Thanks for the reply, I have a laptop and always use the buttons, but c&p wont work from file either in XTerm and if I cant use this facility its not much good.

martin_helm · July 18, 2011, 1:11pm

ex-para wrote:

>
> Is Xterm in opensuse 11.3 the only means of using the the commands such
> as consol in Ubuntu or dos in windows. The reason I ask is because I am
> unable to copy & past into Xterm.
>
Why don’t you use gnome-terminal (if you are running gnome) or konsole or
yakuake (if you are running KDE)?
And there are plenty of other terminal emulators in addition.

djh-novell · July 18, 2011, 1:19pm

ex-para wrote:
> Is Xterm in opensuse 11.3 the only means of using the the commands such
> as consol in Ubuntu or dos in windows. The reason I ask is because I am
> unable to copy & past into Xterm.

It’s possible, don’t give up! But it can be complicated:

(1) there’s more than one terminal program and they don’t all work the same.
(2) there’s more than one way of cutting and pasting, depending on the
desktop

Doh!

First, it depends on your desktop environment, which you haven’t told us.

You can try gnome-terminal or whatever the KDE or LXDE equivalent is.

You can try various key combinations CTRL-C & CTRL-V or CTRL-SHIFT-C &
CTRL-SHIFT-V or don’t remember & CTRL-SHIFT-INSERT. (read man pages)

You can try dragging & dropping.

You can try copying with the left button and pasting with the middle button.

You can try various combinations of all of these.

There are also various clipboards that may or may not be installed or
installable.

It’s sometimes easiest to copy from one application into an intermediate
and then copy from the intermediate into the target application, if
there are problems copying directly.

Cheers, Dave

ex-para · July 18, 2011, 2:20pm

Gnome-terminal works OK as I have tried it with the live disk but it is not present in my applications on my installed 11.3 but not to worry as I have just two days ago sent for the 11.4 disc to install so I will sort it out when it comes.

Thanks again for the replies.

gropiuskalle · July 18, 2011, 2:57pm

Are you aware that you can install aplications after the initial install as well? Look into YaST, there is a software-management-module.

Or just open any kind of terminal, become root and do the following command:

zypper in gnome-terminal

martin_helm · July 18, 2011, 3:05pm

ex-para wrote:

>
> Gnome-terminal works OK as I have tried it with the live disk but it is
> not present in my applications on my installed 11.3 but not to worry as
> I have just two days ago sent for the 11.4 disc to install so I will
> sort it out when it comes.
>
That exists of course in 11.3 also, you may just not have it installed.
Open a xterm and type:


su -
zypper install gnome-terminal

please_try_again · July 18, 2011, 4:25pm

gnome-terminal is a nice terminal for sure, but you didn’t tell which desktop you are using. Did you? So, to not literally repeat Martin’s advice in post #4, I may add that if you’re using XFCE, you could use XFCE terminal (which is called “Terminal”) and if you’re using LXDE, you can use lxterminal. All these programs - including the ones previously mentioned - have preferences menus where you can define shortcuts to copy/paste text… except lxterminal (where the shortcuts are shift+Ctrl+C and shift+Ctrl+V but you can not change them).

user · July 18, 2011, 6:17pm

On 07/18/2011 03:06 AM, ex-para wrote:
>
> Is Xterm in opensuse 11.3 the only means of using the the commands such
> as consol in Ubuntu or dos in windows. The reason I ask is because I am
> unable to copy & past into Xterm.
>
>
There are other terminal emulators readily available for openSUSE, as
others have pointed out. After trying out a few, I’ve settled on
“XTerm”. You should edit ~/.Xdefaults to suit your needs, though.

You may want to try out “gpm”, a standard package - meaning it’s in the
“oss” repo.

From the description of the program:

“The gpm (general purpose mouse) daemon tries to be a useful mouse
server for applications running on the Linux console. It can be used by
mc (Midnight Commander) or by w3m, the text-based Web browser. It
provides console cut and paste operations.”

Install “gpm” (YaST or zypper).
Installing is not enough; you must activate the service.

2.1 Launch Yast2 > “Hardware” > "Mouse on Text Console (GPM). Pick your
mouse in the list. In my case it is “Intelli/Wheel mouse(USB)”.

2.2 Then, while in YaST2 > “System” > “System Services” (Runlevel). You
see many services there. Turn on “gpm”.

[While there, you may be tempted to toggle on/off other services. Be
careful here. If you don’t know what they are really for, DO NOT
EXPERIMENT. You may screw up your system really truly badly.

I have turned on “xfs”, “ntp”, “spamd”, in addition to “gpm”.]

please_try_again · July 18, 2011, 11:17pm

I seriously doubt the OP is using console mode and needs such a program as gpm.

robin_listas · July 19, 2011, 1:20am

On 2011-07-18 13:36, ex-para wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply, I have a laptop and always use the buttons, but
> c&p wont work from file either in XTerm and if I cant use this facility
> its not much good.

Copy paste works fine in xterms, it always has. But probably differently
than you expect.

Select is shift -left mouse. Paste is shift, middle mouse.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

nrickert · July 19, 2011, 10:03pm

I use “xterm” as my preferred terminal emulator.

To select, I simply select with the mouse.

To paste, I use middle-click (or mouse wheel click). However, if I am using a touchpad or a two-button mouse, then I can paste with simultaneously clicking left and right buttons. That can be awkward, so I mostly use a small usb mouse with the space to the right of the touchpad used as a mouse “pad”.

X-windows actually has two cut/paste buffers, and different programs use different ones. This can sometimes be confusing, though it add flexibility when you become familiar with it. Many programs work like xterm for simple copy/paste into buffer1, and some use the edit menu (or CTRL-C, CTRL-V) with buffer2.