My bad. Ok in the terminal try.
Exit —labwc
Or you are in xfce wayland. Try
Xfce4-session-logout
Dear @conram ! Dear all!
Thank you for your participation! Any ideas, opinions and advises welcome and appreciated.
TL;DR: I am fine with Leap 16.0 generally. I am almost fine with Xfce (beta status) on Wayland (labwc). I do experience some specific issues. But I can generally use my system (on Leap 16).
Due to the massive progress from labwc 0.8.1 (Leap 16.0 pool release — it’s actually “out-of-date”!) to 0.9.6 (available for TW and predecessor of current 0.9.7) I rather rely on an update. It is already on their plan, but there are some issues realizing it (i.e. for Leap).
@C7NhtpnK , I am using labwc for now and really liking it.
It is even simpler and more snappy than xfce .
I do not fully understand: Xfce is the DE (like KDE or GNOME) — labwc is the background for Wayland. What exactly do you use resp. do you not use? Thank you.
Labwc is a wlroots-based window-stacking compositor for Wayland, inspired by Openbox. A Desktop Environment (DE)…
Xfce relies on labwc, currently. There is WIP of Xfwl4 https://alexxcons.github.io/blogpost_15.html .
Can you just run labwc solely? (I have no clue)? I guess you just have a desktop (window compositor) then, but not a full DE.
@C7NhtpnK What is a full desktop environment? ![]()
I guess your question is rhetoric — but I actually mean the such as GNOME, KDE, Xfce and the likes — and not just a compositor with some widgets. I have realized that some people like using Sway e.g., but this is not what I personally associate with DE. (Yes, Linux may be different from Windows and macOS here…)
It was
To me it’s more of a pre-determined environment with applications and GUI tools for user configuration.
The rest are just frameworks to create/run anything you want on them, cage, sway, openbox, labwc etc…
To make it simple, we will take the case of icewm. Icewm windowmanager can run applications of KDE, Gnome, Xfce etc… in x11. Labwc does these things but in wayland.
See my June 2026 screenshot with labwc.
In xfce-wayland you can have a choice, not only labwc. You can use wayfire or hyprland to use as the window-manager. In xfce x11, you can use for example kwin x11.