Wy are the applications in the repos not up to date witht the current releases?

Just wondering?

Hi
You mean in where? Released versions stay the same and fixes are backported.

please explain your question…

for example, are you asking why (say) the latest firefox available for
linux at mozilla.com is 3.6.15 but in the 11.3 repo the latest is
3.6.13 ??


DenverD
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to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

On 2011-03-09 04:06, rafter22 wrote:
>
> Just wondering?

Which exact repo? Reasons are different.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Well, just the recommended ones and a couple from OBS.

openSUSE 11.3-Oss, Non-Oss, Update, libdvdcss and of course packman (although I don’t understand why codecs and vlc keep updating, when they work just fine)
Main Repository (Contrib)
OBS Gnome Stable:2.30
OBS Gnome:Apps
OBS Mozilla (It was the only place I could find Firefox 3.6.15, and SeaMonkey 2.0.12) The openSUSE11.3-Update repo is showing 3.0.11.

So anyway, Transmission is still v2.13 when v2.22 is the current version. Thunderbird is still v3.1.8, v3.1.9 was just released, and you can forget qBittorrent. I guess that maintainer gave up, since I still see v2.2.10 in the Main Repository (Contrib) when v2.6.7 is the current version.

Sorry to complain, it’s just a pet peeve of mine. I really think if you want the latest programs it is best to download and install from the sites.

Then again, all those newer versions are probably in openSUSE 11.4.

I should have proof read my subject. :embarrassed:

Hi
The main ones are very static, the other ones can/should/will/would be updated you can always contact the maintainer direct and ask for it to be updated, at the build service;
https://build.opensuse.org/project/list_public
Search on the project/package and then look at the user list for the email.

You can also contact via the mailing lists or IRC;
openSUSE:Communication channels - openSUSE

There may be very good reasons for not updating changes in sub packages not security related etc, so best to ask direct rather than wondering :wink:

On 03/09/2011 03:36 PM, rafter22 wrote:

> Sorry to complain, it’s just a pet peeve of mine. I really think if you
> want the latest programs it is best to download and install from the
> sites.

well, your complaint is based on a faulty understanding of what is
going on here: up until 11.3 it was never a goal of openSUSE to have
the absolute latest release of any application rolled into the
currently supported openSUSE…

just wasn’t done! generally, a release of openSUSE would retain
exactly the application version released with that openSUSE, for its
full life time…

doing it that way, each public release of a new version would include
a newer (but not always the newest) versions of the various
applications available…

now, other distros do it differently, and some have for some
time…some (i believe Ubuntu is one) uses a “rolling release”
concept and they routinely roll out the newest releases of
applications into their currently supported system…

what IS done in openSUSE is if there is a significant fatal bug
squashed in a particular application, or a security flaw is
repaired–then, sometimes a newer version would rolled into the update
repo…

read here and you will see that there is a NEW move afoot to change
openSUSE to also be a “rolling release” distribution:
http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed


DenverD
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[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

Thanks all! I feel better now that I understand the process. :X

I’ll give Tumbleweed a look.