I’ve bought a lot of Blu-Ray discs and it doesn’t matter what framerate they have for me since I rip them into a H-D and watch them later with VLC which thankfully plays them regardless of the fps. But I assume if you’re going to watch them on a Blu-Ray player the player is either a NTSC or Pal player (29/30 fps vs 24/25 fps) and you’d have to have the same fps disc to work? Well why didn’t they abandon the Pal framerate internationally for Blu-Ray and the new 4K high resolutions? I’ve just checked a few of the cases of Blu-Rays which I’ve bought from the UK and yes they are Pal…a few say nothing about it.
PS: I do also realize there is the various region zone thing which if a disc isn’t region-free (which some are) isn’t suppossed to work in region players from a different region zone, but that is a different issue and they could still do that regardless of framerate.
There is no such thing as a “PAL” or “NTSC” when it comes to Blu-ray - the content on BD is stored in 24, 30, 50 or 60fps which causes the problems for some poor quality players.
Well you better tell Amazon off for posting PAL format Blu-Ray like this one… Hands of the Ripper (BR) Format: PAL
Scroll down to see that here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hands-Ripper-Blu-ray-Eric-Porter/dp/B00I7TXGBQ
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PAL, short for Phase Alternating Line, is a colour encoding system for analogue television used in broadcast television systems in most countries broadcasting at 625-line / 50 field (25 frame) per second (576i). Other common colour encoding systems are NTSC and SECAM. This page primarily discusses the PAL colour encoding system. The articles onbroadcast television systems and analogue television further describe frame rates, image resolution and audio modulation.
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It’s not PAL. It’s 25-50fps content. That does not make it “PAL”.
OK tell Amazon not me
Just to clarify…I’ve got almost 100 store bought BR discs…some from Canada, some from the USA and some from the UK. I’ve ripped every single one of them into an external hard-drive using MakeMKV and see the technical specs of them at the same time…some are 29.97/30 fps and the rest are 25/24/23.something fps…none are 50 or 60 fps. Ya my cameras can shoot as high as 60 btw.
…Al I am saying is since High Definition is High Definition…why do they make any in such a low framerate which is often quite noticable on playback?
Because the original content was shot at 23.97fps like the vast majority of movies are, exceptions being HFR movies like Hobbit etc.
When the original material is what it is, you can’t really do much. You can do interpolation but that looks ghastly.
What?..so my intial thread title was…Why does Pal fps Blu-Ray even exist and you go on and on pointlessly. Guess what…a few movies and TV shows have actually been made in the former colonies (USA and Canada) as well as Japan in the standard NTSC framerate of 29.97.
Now lets imagine a framerate of 2 per second…would 3 per second look better?..which would look better > 5 or 6 frames per second and that is the same ratio as 25 vs 30 fps.
And now I won’t. Goodbye, forever.
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:06:02 +0000, JWK57 wrote:
> Miuku;2694499 Wrote:
>> Because the original content was shot at 23.97fps like the vast
>> majority of movies are, exceptions being HFR movies like Hobbit etc.
>>
>> When the original material is what it is, you can’t really do much. You
>> can do interpolation but that looks ghastly.
>
> What?..so my intial thread title was…Why does Pal fps Blu-Ray
> even exist and you go on and on pointlessly. Guess what…a few movies
> and TV shows have actually been made in the former colonies (USA and
> Canada) as well as Japan in the standard NTSC framerate of 29.97.
> Now lets imagine a framerate of 2 per second…would 3 per second look
> better?..which would look better > 5 or 6 frames per second and that is
> the same ratio as 25 vs 30 fps.
Let’s not make this personal, OK?
You’re asking questions about technical specs for Blu-Ray - the reason is
“because they exist, that’s why”. If you want more detail than that, you
probably want to talk to a producer of such Blu-Ray discs rather than
getting upset with another user in a Linux forum who’s just having a
conversation about it with you.
Jim
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I’m sorry. But first I got told Pal Blu-Rays don’t exist when they do…at least they are labelled as such. All movies which are available on DVD’s world-wide (eg: The Tin Drum, Dr.Zhivago) are sold in both PAL and NTSC versions. Check out the specs of various versions of The Tin Drum here http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare3/tindrum.htm I happen to have The Criterion NTSC version and it is 29.97 fps. So Blu-Rays can be either too and of any movie. 50 fps feature length video would be too large to fit on even a dual layer BR disc so really the 29/30 framerate would be the best compromise between quality and excessive size.