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I installed openSUSE from the KDE Live CD which apparently doesn’t have
a local repos on it :frowning:

I’m trying to get my wireless internet setup (see ‘New User Having
Trouble Following Sticky Instructions :frowning: - openSUSE Forums’
(http://tinyurl.com/657qgv)).

I’m trying to compile compile and install the driver from ‘at76_usb -
Linux driver for Atmel AT76C503/AT76C505 based USB WLAN adapters’
(http://at76c503a.berlios.de/) (I have a Linksys WUSB11 ver. 2.6
wireless access point).

I downloaded and installed kernel-source-2.6.25.5-1.1.i586.rpm (output
of uname -a gives ‘Linux deadbox 2.6.25.5-1.1-default #1 SMP 2008-06-07
01:55:22 +0200 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux’) because the driver page says I
need it, but when I try to ‘make’ the driver I get ‘make: command not
found’.

I have no internet access from openSUSE at the moment, so I’m
downloading the packages I need from a Windows box and transferring them
via a USB stick.

What package/s do I need for make to work and are there any
dependencies I need to get?

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You’ll need make, and the C development packages. They are not on the
Live CD. You have a chicken and egg problem. If you have a DVD drive and
the DVD distro, you could add that as a “repo”.

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I don’t have the ability to get the DVD version so I’m stuck with having
to download via Windows and copy over :frowning: Can I download the packages
you mention from the web? If so, what do I need exactly?

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Ah, this could be tricky because OpenSUSE users seldom install packages
manually these days, they configure one or more repos and let the
package manager figure out the dependencies. Getting a bunch of packages
can be frustrating and error-prone, working out the necessary set.

Can you set up internet sharing via Windows through a wired Ethernet
connection? Even just a web proxy will do the trick. Then you can fetch
exactly what you need from the repo.

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It’s possible that I could swap my box with the one that’s directly
connected to our router, but I’m not sure how that would affect our
network and would involve unwiring and moving two sets of hardware
around :frowning: If that’s my only option I guess I don’t have much choice…
I can actually download the DVD image and burn it to disc on another
machine, but this machine won’t read burned DVDs for some reason…
Seems I’m stuck on all fronts!

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Is your DVD drive of a certain age? It might be able to read DVD-R but
not DVD+R if it was manufactured between certain dates. Another
possibility is to get a pressed version from a duplicator or Linux
magazine. Yet another possibility is to set up filesharing on Windows
and copy the ISO image to OpenSUSE via the network, but it sounds like
you are not able to connect all your computers to a LAN.

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Firstly let me say I’m very new to Linux, networking, etc, etc, so I’m
taking on a lot of new stuff at once here. This whole thing is a
learning experience for me and I’m desperately trying to set up an
environment in which to learn more and be able to scrap Windows. Just a
bit of background so you have a better idea of where I’m coming from.

The machine I’m trying to set OpenSUSE up on is currently dual-booting
with Windows XP Home. I have internet access from Windows XP, so would
it be possible to download the DVD .iso and have access to it from
OpenSUSE that way? Can I use the .iso without having to burn it to DVD?

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Maybe there is an easier solution that it’s worth to try…

I just did a search for “at76_usb” on ‘Software.openSUSE.org’
(http://software.opensuse.org/search) and it seems that the module is
available in the openSUSE:11.0/standard repo - that means that it
suppose to be on the DVD and maybe it is not on the live CD.

Do a search in your yast software package manager for at76_usb - maybe
it is not installed but you have it on the live cd. If it is not
download the rpm suitable for your kernel type “default” or “pae” and
try to install it.

Good luck.

P.S.
There was a guy around that was making ISO images for people with no
internet connection with updates and media related packages (not sure if
the dev packages were in or not) on the older forums but I did not see
posts on this one.

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Ok, I get it, dual boot. Yes you can serve the ISO image to Linux. After
downloading (don’t use IE, it has download file size limitations, use a
download manager), leave it on the Windows filesystem. On OpenSUSE mount
the Windows partition (you’ll need to look at an OpenSUSE tute for this,
search for it at the website) using the ntfs-3g driver, or even the old
ntfs driver, since you only need read permission. Then copy it over to
Linux and mount the DVD ISO image as a “repo”.

I’m not sure, but you even may be able to do the NTFS mounting with
YaST, I haven’t had to do this for a while. Post a new thread about
mounting NTFS from OpenSUSE and swerdna will be able to set you on the
right path. :slight_smile:

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I searched for ‘at76’ in YaST2 and a package called ‘atmel-firmware’
shows as being installed. A search for ‘at76_usb’ gives ‘No Results’.

Searching for ‘at76_usb’ on ‘Software.openSUSE.org’
(http://software.opensuse.org/search) gives several results, but I’m not
sure which one I need: at76_usb-kmp-pae or at76_usb-kmp-default?

If I can serve the DVD .iso to OpenSUSE without having to burn it, that
sounds like a viable option!

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I think you need the default since uname -a said:
Linux deadbox 2.6.25.5-1.1-default #1 SMP 2008-06-07 01:55:22 +0200
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

<quote from your other post>.

Cheers.

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OK, thanks - got that and dropped it on my USB stick, so I’ll log into
OpenSUSE and see if it makes a difference. Wish me luck!

(I have the DVD .iso in my download manager as back up, so I’ll try
that if the driver thing doesn’t work out…)

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USB stick is another way to transfer, if you have a large enough stick,
copy the ISO onto the stick in Windows and get it off the stick in
Linux. You need a 8GB stick though.

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OK, I definitely seem to be making some progress…

I installed the driver .rpm and now when I click the little planet icon
in my system tray I get a wlan0 connection show up which it didn’t
before (although the planet icon is still grey).

In the list of networks, our network name shows up with a little
progress bar type indicator next to it. When I click our network name,
the planet icon turns to a spinning cog for a few seconds, then turns
back to a grey planet.

In YaST -> Network Devices -> Network Settings, my WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b
Adapter now shows the IP as DHCP, whereas before it was ‘Not
configured’. Below, it says ‘Not connected’ and lists a MAC address I’m
not familiar with (I have 3 written down for our network and it isn’t
any of these).

Also, an ‘unknown network device’ appears in the list which wasn’t
there before (and isn’t configured)… So, I have three network devices
in the list: 1) WUSB… 2) Unknown and 3) Ethernet Network Card.

How do I join our network now, assuming I’ve goofed on a setting
somewhere (i.e., can you walk me through what I need to do from the
start).

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Forgot to mention, the ‘link’ light on my wireless access point is now
also green… I wasn’t on at all before I installed the driver.

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safetycopy;1900303 Wrote:
> I searched for ‘at76’ in YaST2 and a package called ‘atmel-firmware’
> shows as being installed. A search for ‘at76_usb’ gives ‘No Results’.
>
> Searching for ‘at76_usb’ on ‘Software.openSUSE.org’
> (http://software.opensuse.org/search) gives several results, but I’m not
> sure which one I need: at76_usb-kmp-pae or at76_usb-kmp-default?
>
> If I can serve the DVD .iso to OpenSUSE without having to burn it, that
> sounds like a viable option!
Yes you can do this with the .iso

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It seems this thread and ‘New User Having Trouble Following Sticky
Instructions :frowning: - openSUSE Forums’ (http://tinyurl.com/657qgv) could do
with being merged as they seem to be becoming the same topic. My bad!

I don’t think I need to compile the driver for access point any more as
I’ve downloaded a pre-compiled .rpm from one of the repos (assuming it’s
the right thing I’ve got).

My trouble now seems to be getting connected to my network… See a
couple of posts back.

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safetycopy;1900334 Wrote:
> OK, I definitely seem to be making some progress…
>
> I installed the driver .rpm and now when I click the little planet icon
> in my system tray I get a wlan0 connection show up which it didn’t
> before (although the planet icon is still grey).
>
> In the list of networks, our network name shows up with a little
> progress bar type indicator next to it. When I click our network name,
> the planet icon turns to a spinning cog for a few seconds, then turns
> back to a grey planet.
>
> In YaST → Network Devices → Network Settings, my WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b
> Adapter now shows the IP as DHCP, whereas before it was ‘Not
> configured’. Below, it says ‘Not connected’ and lists a MAC address I’m
> not familiar with (I have 3 written down for our network and it isn’t
> any of these).
>
> Also, an ‘unknown network device’ appears in the list which wasn’t
> there before (and isn’t configured)… So, I have three network devices
> in the list: 1) WUSB… 2) Unknown and 3) Ethernet Network Card.
>
> How do I join our network now, assuming I’ve goofed on a setting
> somewhere (i.e., can you walk me through what I need to do from the
> start).

It seems the driver was installed and working… Maybe this topic will
/ should move to Network-Internet/Wireless since the main issue was
networking and seems getting dev packages is not an issue any more but
this is for admins / moderators to decide.

Now, since you are totally new to linux, the first rule of thumb is
“read about your new operating system” and try not to get “spoon-fed”.
There is a lot of documentation out there: ‘Welcome to openSUSE.org -
openSUSE’ (http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org) and also
installed on the system (not sure if it is on the live cd though)

I suggest you start with the Concepts available here: ‘Concepts -
openSUSE’ (http://en.opensuse.org/Concepts) - info on the networking is
available there to get the general idea, also this will help you with
software managing and other useful things.

That will help you communicate better in asking the right questions and
avoid things like “little planet icon in my system tray”… which I
guess is the NetworkManager icon (I am not sure because I use the if-up
method instead)

I did a little search on the documentation pages and here is a possible
link with documentation on wireless: ‘Connecting to a wireless network -
openSUSE’ (http://en.opensuse.org/Connecting_to_a_wireless_network)

There is another doc page but it is for if-up method and requires
command line configuring for which you might not be ready, it available
here: ‘YaST/Tips/Wireless Network in First Stage Installation -
openSUSE’ (http://tinyurl.com/5cp7ph)

Also it uses vi editor which might not be easy to use by a starter.

OK, that being said I welcome you to the world of openSUSE and wish you
good luck and happy reading.

Cheers

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safetycopy;1900334 Wrote:
> OK, I definitely seem to be making some progress…
>
> I installed the driver .rpm and now when I click the little planet icon
> in my system tray I get a wlan0 connection show up which it didn’t
> before (although the planet icon is still grey).
>
> In the list of networks, our network name shows up with a little
> progress bar type indicator next to it. When I click our network name,
> the planet icon turns to a spinning cog for a few seconds, then turns
> back to a grey planet.
>
> In YaST → Network Devices → Network Settings, my WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b
> Adapter now shows the IP as DHCP, whereas before it was ‘Not
> configured’. Below, it says ‘Not connected’ and lists a MAC address I’m
> not familiar with (I have 3 written down for our network and it isn’t
> any of these).
>
> Also, an ‘unknown network device’ appears in the list which wasn’t
> there before (and isn’t configured)… So, I have three network devices
> in the list: 1) WUSB… 2) Unknown and 3) Ethernet Network Card.
>
> How do I join our network now, assuming I’ve goofed on a setting
> somewhere (i.e., can you walk me through what I need to do from the
> start).

In Yast Network settings ,make sure Global Options is set to controlled
with network manager - Uncheck the enable IPv6 - Hoste name to send
is:auto and Check default route by DHCP.
Now go to overview and make sure your WUSB is highlighted - click edit
General Tab - select at boot time - External firewall zone - Check
kinternet - My MTU is blank
Address tab - Dynamic DHCP

Now click Next

Here Operating mode = Managed
Network Name= the name ESSID in your router
Authentication: I use WPA-PSK (but use the same as your router)
Passphrase/Key= as set in router

Finish

In knetworkmanager in the panel
right click: Does your WUSB show in there as an existing connection?
If Yes - select edit connections
Check the ESSID - next
Enter security - next
Nothing to do at manual leave blank - next
Give your connection a name anything will do wg: WUSB - connect and
save

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@ghostintheruins: I completely understand where you’re coming from and
agree 100%. However… I’ve been fighting the installation of Linux for
several days now and need to get my machine up and running. I’ve already
taken a lot in and am learning all the time. Once I have internet access
I’ll be much more self-sufficient :slight_smile:

@caf4926: Followed your instructions to the letter and here’s what
happens:

After plugging all those settings into YaST, I get ‘Saving Network
Configuration’ which successfully checks off everything on the list
until it gets to ‘Activate network services’. At this point, I get 3
‘cannot access installation media’ messages (presumably one for each
repo). I click ‘skip’ on each of these and then the knetworkmanager icon
disappears and that’s that.

In YaST Network Settings I have:
WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b Adapter (Not connected)
Device name: wlan0
Started automatically at boot
IP address assigned using DHCP

When I right-click knetworkmanager, I get wlan0, then eth0, then No
carriers, and then the menu to edit connections etc.

In the Network Card Setup for WUSB, on the hardware tab I have 2
options for Kernel module: at76c503-rfmd and at76_usb. It’s currently
set to the usb option.

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