What must you always install...?

So as a new user on Suse im still wondering what applications / programs and other neat things i am to install.

So far i have only installed

  • Java
  • Freezewire (i think its called)
  • Wine
  • and im currently in the middle of installing Compiz Fusion as it looks cool from what ive seen of it.

What must you always install before you are happy with it? Can you tell us the names and what each application does so others know.

Should be a good thread.

I agree with most of the recommendations at this link.
What Software Should I Use?

Surely that depends on what you want to do with your computer. If you know what you want, then you can go look for the software to do it.

I would always want a web browser, a mail client, a photo album manager, and a music player. And being a developer, I want to be able to install any package I need. SUSE has always had a good choice and is getting better with more repositories.

I agree with Ken_Yap here. But in my case, I have a heavy bias toward multimedia apps on my PC, mainly because that is where my interests currently exist.

Thats a neat link! I was not aware of all the FTP clients mentioned, and that has me thinking.

Agree with all of that.

My browser of choise (firefox), konqueror (file manager/browser), java (by default, I think), and part of the office apps I like (open office) comes with the basic DVD install.

Plus in my case I add:

  • gcc, gcc++, gcc42, gcc42++ (or is it 43 ? I’m not at a Linux PC now), plus many other “dev” apps so I can custom compile stuff.
  • smart/smart-gui
  • chess stuff: scid, xboard, and chess engines - gnuchess, phalanx, custom compiled crafty, and ‘spike’ free-proprietary chess engine
  • photo album manager (gphoto, digikam, and gwenview)
  • music player (packman packaged amarok, libxine1, mad, & assorted dependencies)
  • video player (packman packaged xine-ui, smplayer/mplayer, vlc, flash-player plus assorted codecs - w32codec-all, xvid, etc …)
  • Image Manipulation - gimp
  • chat program - xchat, kopete
  • mail client - thunderbird (I recently moved to this from evolution)
  • remote access (x11vnc, tightvnc, nx)
  • FTP clients - gftp (but after harryc’s link, I am now considering kbear/kasablanca)
  • DVD-backup/authoring/Movie editor stuff (Packman packaged dvbcut, tovid, avidemux, kdenlive, k9copy, dvdauthor, xvidenc).
  • misc: leafpad (a text editor), acroread (pdf reader), wine, autostitch (ms-windows program run under wine), some firefox plugins (download-helper, mplayerplug-in), virtual-box (to run winXP in a virtual session).
  • drivers (madwifi - for my wife’s PC’s wireless).

The above results in a LOT of various dependencies being installed

as others will say the multimedia codecs, ability to play DVDs.

If you’re in to chess engines, then Stockfish should be mentioned. It’s open source and even stronger than the commercial Rybka engine.

Another strong chess engine packaged for openSUSE is RobboLito.

We are fortunate on openSUSE that one of the Packman packagers has packaged many chess programs for openSUSE.

I helped support the update of an openSUSE chess wiki for a while, but after the wiki format change, I merely made a backup under my handle, and neither myself nor anyone else has got around to moving the chess wiki to the new wiki format. This needs to be done sometime.

I have a whole A4 cheat sheet of applications I always install. I update it every time I find a useful application. Without it, I simply wouldn’t remember what I had installed before.

-If you are going to install a Lot of apps… a huge(r) home partition. What size? Well, that would depend on a lot of things… but > 10 G IMO. Probably a larger root partition as well.
-It’s probably obvious, and goes without saying, but at least one more browser app.
-I like to ‘text out’ man pages by invoking: “man cmd > cmd.txt”, and saving the helps in one folder: mndmnls (manned manuals).

On 04/18/2011 06:36 AM, danperecky wrote:
>
> -I like to ‘text out’ man pages by invoking: “man cmd> cmd.txt”, and
> saving the helps in one folder: mndmnls (manned manuals).

just my opinion, but why use the space since they already exist on your
machine?

so, try this trick–in the location bar of Konqueror type and enter


#man

and up will pop the manual for the manual (man man), in nice clear text
(that you can make bigger with Ctrl+, or smaller with Ctrl-) and hot
links to other manuals mentioned in man), and bold fonts…

so, if you wanna check the man on (say) mount just type


#mount

imo you will get a more readable verions of the man, and don’t use up
more drive space…enjoy.


CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[openSUSE 11.3 + KDE4.5.5 + Thunderbird3.1.8 via NNTP]
A Penguin Being Tickled - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GILA0rrR6w

As an additional example for gnome users.
It also works to show man pages directly with yelp (gnome help), for example


yelp man:ps


PC: oS 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | KDE 4.6.1 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.6.0 | nVidia
ION | 3GB Ram

On 04/18/2011 01:14 PM, martin_helm wrote:
>


> yelp man:ps
> 

nice! i had no idea (if i had switched to gnome, i would have had to
have the kde base and knoqueror, just to have that feature! (well, i
also like konqueror as a file manager better than nautilus (but, when i
first moved from gnome to kde i had to have the gnome base and nautilus
included…heh, funny how what you are used to is almost always “the
best”!)


CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[openSUSE 11.3 + KDE4.5.5 + Thunderbird3.1.8 via NNTP]
A Penguin Being Tickled - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GILA0rrR6w

DenverD wrote:

> On 04/18/2011 01:14 PM, martin_helm wrote:
>>


>> yelp man:ps
>> 

>
> nice! i had no idea (if i had switched to gnome, i would have had to
> have the kde base and knoqueror, just to have that feature! (well, i
> also like konqueror as a file manager better than nautilus (but, when i
> first moved from gnome to kde i had to have the gnome base and nautilus
> included…heh, funny how what you are used to is almost always “the
> best”!)
>
To be honest, I found that by accident. While I was trying gnome on the
notebook. But at the end I found myself still using konqueror for many
things (also for showing man pages) while working in gnome.


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9600 GT | 4GB Ram
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ION | 3GB Ram

DenverD and martin_helm

I tried the

yelp man:command
trick. Very nice format. Professional presentation. I don’t currently have Konqueror installed (so could not try that tip), though maybe I should.

Using

man cmd > cmd.txt
has just been my way of ‘bookmarking’ certain commands I use a lot, just like internet web pages. They are easy to find for me. Yes, it takes up more space. To get around this, they are on an NTFS drive, so it doesn’t impact the home dir.](http://forums.opensuse.org/members/martin_helm.html)

for the c-li junkies this will leave the manpage on the terminal after exiting:

export LESS='FiX' >>~/.bashrc

reload with

source ~/.bashrc

man <sompage>
scroll a few pages,etc… Press Q. it stays on the screen.

yelp man:<somepage> is pretty clever also.
+1

On 2011-04-18 13:14, martin_helm wrote:
> As an additional example for gnome users.
> It also works to show man pages directly with yelp (gnome help), for example
>


> yelp man:ps
> 

>

Warning: that line crashes gnome in 11.2, it gets into a loop wasting
gigabytes of memory.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2011-04-18 13:14, martin_helm wrote:
>> As an additional example for gnome users.
>> It also works to show man pages directly with yelp (gnome help), for
>> example
>>


>> yelp man:ps
>> 

>>
>
> Warning: that line crashes gnome in 11.2, it gets into a loop wasting
> gigabytes of memory.
>
So you found that 11.2 has a nasty bug, which gnome version do you run on
11.2 (just curiousity).


PC: oS 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | KDE 4.6.1 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.6.0 | nVidia
ION | 3GB Ram

On 2011-04-19 18:04, martin_helm wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:

> So you found that 11.2 has a nasty bug, which gnome version do you run on
> 11.2 (just curiousity).

The original one. Gnome-about says 2.28.2. I never update gnome, I have a
very bad track record with gnome updates.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2011-04-19 18:04, martin_helm wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>
>> So you found that 11.2 has a nasty bug, which gnome version do you run on
>> 11.2 (just curiousity).
>
> The original one. Gnome-about says 2.28.2. I never update gnome, I have a
> very bad track record with gnome updates.
>
Ok, thanks for the warning.


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