update from 11.3 to 11.4 FAILED?

Hello,

I’ve posted this question already on opensuse@opensuse.org, however perhaps
that is not the right mailing list, while this forum is dedicated to such questions.
And there seems to be much more activity on this forum then on the general mailing
list ---- and I hope to get some answer sooner than later (don’t know how to proceed).

I ran an update from 11.3 to 11.4, using the 11.4 64-bit
DVD, and additionally Internet sources.
When it then came to reboot, I got a screen


doing fast reboot
FATAL: Module thermal not found.
FATAL: Module processor not found.
FATAL: Module fan not found.
1.537034] hub 1-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4
Creating devide nodes with udev
Trying manual resume from /dev/desk/by-id/ata-WDC_ …
Invoking in-kernel resume from …

mount: unknown filesystem type ‘ext4’
could not mount root filesystem --exiting to /bin/sh
sh: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device
sh: no job control in this shell
$

??? What shall I do now???

Hope for your help.

Oliver

On 07/11/2011 06:06 PM, kullmann wrote:
>
> I ran an update from 11.3 to 11.4, using the 11.4 64-bit
> DVD, and additionally Internet sources. ??? What shall I do now???

two things:

  1. which of these supported paths did you follow step-by-step:

http://tinyurl.com/35p966c
http://tinyurl.com/6kvoflv

  1. and did you make absolutely certain that the DVD you have is 100%
    perfect by doing this <http://tinyurl.com/2ebcf27> prior to any
    upgrade attempt?

if you didn’t do both of those things there is not much way for me to
have a clue exactly what when wrong, and without knowing what went wrong
it is difficult to impossible to know how to help you…

but, don’t give up hope…especially if you have an off machine secure
backup of all your data…in which case just do a format install (from a
perfect install disk) and then migrate your data into your new system…

if you don’t have your data secured you can try to boot from a live cd
and copy it off to a safe, off machine place, and then proceed…


DD
-Caveat-Hardware-Software-

sorry, i forgot to notice: -=welcome=- new poster!!


DD
-Caveat-Hardware-Software-

Hello,

how I proceed is very simple: I entered the installation Dvd (where I have checked the correctness by using the K3b check, and
before I checked the md5sum), and followed exactly the steps, always just choosing the proposed steps, except of the kernel
choice: In the past I always updated 11.3, and didn’t do any other changes, but that introduced some kernel version which now
the system didn’t like, that is, it reported some incompatibility, offering three choices, one was to de-install that specific kernel
version, which I have choosen.

So I don’t understand the above first question.

Regarding the second question, nobody can ever be “absolutely certain”, but using the standard
Suse/KDE means I am certain.

Anyway, the system is waiting for something to be entered. Or shall I just
turn the system off?

Oliver

Hi,

so apparently that shell in which I landed has no functionality (not even “shutdown”).

Thus I just turned off the computer.

Now it seems that all what is left to do is to do a fresh install of 11.4?
Seems okay to me (I had a dedicated partition (20GB) just for the Linux system,
and the automatic proposal is just to rewrite that partition, leaving everything else
intact).
This should result in the same as when I would have done a fresh install from the
beginning? (Likely the installation process should warn the user that it has
defects, and that a fresh install is safer, or at least saves time.)

The dual-boot still worked. So I guess it can’t get worse when doing the
complete installation (i.e., it won’t destroy the boot-possibility for Windows 7)?

Oliver

On 07/11/2011 07:06 PM, kullmann wrote:

> Regarding the second question, nobody can ever be “absolutely certain”,
> but using the standard Suse/KDE means I am certain.

did you boot from the install disk and run this
http://tinyurl.com/2ebcf27
with no errors?

if you did that, and had no errors then you are absolutelycertain* the
install disk is perfect.

or did you not do that ?

> Anyway, the system is waiting for something to be entered. Or shall I
> just turn the system off?

i can’t tell you what to input to the system, because i have zero idea
how you booted from an openSUSE install disk that doesn’t know what an
ext4 file system is!

as far as i know it is just not possible to boot from a perfect openSUSE
install disk that doesn’t know what ext4 is…

say, did you download your disk image from http://software.opensuse.org/
or some other place?

and, you might as well tell us about your hardware also…


DD
-Caveat-Hardware-Software-

On 07/11/2011 08:06 PM, kullmann wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> so apparently that shell in which I landed has no functionality (not
> even “shutdown”).
>
> Thus I just turned off the computer.
>
> Now it seems that all what is left to do is to do a fresh install of
> 11.4?

if 11.3 was corrupted by the aborted attempt to upgrade then a fresh
install is about all that is possible…

sorry, but i don’t know if the 11.3 was corrupted…if it was not then
an upgrade is still possible, if you follow one of the supported paths…

> This should result in the same as when I would have done a fresh
> install from the beginning?

yes, if you have a perfect install disk–which i suspect you do not.

> (Likely the installation process should warn the user that
> it has defects, and that a fresh install is safer, or at least saves time.)

no i don’t know how it could do that…as far as i know it can’t even
warn you that you are not exactly following a correct procedure to
perform an upgrade…

> The dual-boot still worked. So I guess it can’t get worse when doing
> the complete installation (i.e., it won’t destroy the boot-possibility for
> Windows 7)?

i know almost nothing about Win7, see here maybe there is an answer:

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/advanced-how-faq-read-only/451831-install-opensuse-alongside-win7-vista-guide.html


DD
-Caveat-Hardware-Software-

Hi,

so well, fresh install just succeeded, and everything seems to work (at least as
before — and I had many problems).

Now I have to see whether the problems I had with 11.3 (extremely poor performance,
…) have been solved or not. But that shall be a different thread.

(I just see that one of the problems is still the same: After entering KDE,
it asks, with good reasons, for entering the password for KWallet and ssh,
but still the keyboard is not activated then, and thus no entrance is possible.)

Oliver

On 07/11/2011 09:06 PM, kullmann wrote:
>
> Now I have to see whether the problems I had with 11.3 (extremely poor
> performance) have been solved or not. But that shall be a different thread.

when you start that other thread for problems, please put only one
problem in each new thread

and use a descriptive subject line
and put it in the correct forum
and give enough info so folks can help you…

like, this keyboard problem: be sure and mention if it is a PS2 or USB
keyboard…or, a laptop keyboard, or a touch/on-screen key board, or if
you ssh into the system, or if you are running in a VM, or or or

all of those things will serve to help attract the correct help, and
avoid delays to pull needed info from you.


DD
-Caveat-Hardware-Software-

On 2011-07-11 19:06, kullmann wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> how I proceed is very simple: I entered the installation Dvd (where I
> have checked the correctness by using the K3b check, and
> before I checked the md5sum), and followed exactly the steps,

Which steps? Please describe.

> always
> just choosing the proposed steps,

Please describe.

> except of the kernel
> choice:

Please describe.

In the past I always updated 11.3, and didn’t do any other
> changes, but that introduced some kernel version which now
> the system didn’t like, that is, it reported some incompatibility,
> offering three choices, one was to de-install that specific kernel
> version, which I have choosen.

Unintelligible.

> Anyway, the system is waiting for something to be entered. Or shall I
> just turn the system off?

The installation is more or less destroyed. Why I can not say unless you
clearly describe what you did.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2011-07-11 18:06, kullmann wrote:

> I ran an update from 11.3 to 11.4, using the 11.4 64-bit
> DVD, and additionally Internet sources.

Please describe. Internet sources with a DVD upgrade procedure?
Which sources? Please specify.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

apparently that shell in which I landed has no functionality (not even “shutdown”).

That would have been ^D to shut down.

On 07/13/2011 10:36 AM, vodoo wrote:
>
> That would have been ^D to shut down.

i didn’t know that, thank!


DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software

openSUSE®, the BMW® of operating systems!

On 2011-07-13 14:52, DenverD wrote:
> On 07/13/2011 10:36 AM, vodoo wrote:
>>
>> That would have been ^D to shut down.
>
> i didn’t know that, thank!

It signals end of file, IIRC. Ah, no, EOF is ^Z. ^D is EOT, end of
transmission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Z


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)