Tumbleweed Jan 2026 - install is suddenly a minefield

My motherboard and processor and AMD GPU are reasonably up to date, and have been running Tumbleweed for a couple of years now. I accept the manageable flow of occasional regressions and bugs - it’s Tumbleweed. As a UXer, I do get frustrated about the lack of or hidden communication about UI design decisions often merely unwitting UI manifestations of deeper technical decisions. I’m getting off topic though. After some troubles - can’t even recall what they were, I decided it had been long enough and I ought to run a new install, stick to the core repos only and rationalise and harden my storage.

  1. I downloaded the .iso and ddd it to a thumb drive. The checksum matched and the install proceeds successfully - to a point, depending on the BIOS settings.
  2. I have a Z790 Aorus Elite AX
  3. I upgraded the BIOS successfully from F1 to F15 (12/01/2025 8ARPT005) and reset the BIOS to factory defaults and changed the motherboard battery.
  4. Processor: 13th Gen Intel Core i9 13900K
  5. Security Option: System
  6. Boot Option: UEFI:Kingston... thumb drive with install image
  7. Fast Boot: Disable Link ← I thought this was the problem but seems not entirely
  8. Windows 10 Features: Other OS
  9. CSM Support: Disabled ← understand that if enabled, is legacy UEFI (ie MBR / max 2TB / max 4 partitions)
  10. Secure Boot: Enabled - Active but also tried Disabled - Not Active
  11. Secure Boot Mode: Standard

With Fast Boot enabled, the install almost immediately returns ../../grub-core/kern/mm.c:584/out of memory searching here there was a thread speculating that there had been a change, meaning more ‘something’ needed to be pre loaded and that fast boot only prepares insufficient storage, ‘somewhere’ - I didn’t really understand but I disabled Fast Boot and it worked a bit better, getting beyond to start the Yast install screens.

After using the ‘expert’ partitioner to reuse most of the existing partitions, I proceeded to the install button. I have a Sandisk M2A 500GiB SSD - I had set it up to format 256MiB FAT for /boot/efi and 465GiB for /. The package install seemed to proceed until it got to the bootloader and a dialogue popped up with a message along the lines of Couldn't find EFI system partition. It is recommended to mount it to /boot or /efi.

Switching to a tty console and running bootctl status returned the same message, plus

System:
Firmware n/a (n/a)
Firmware Arch x64
Secure Boot: disabled
TPM2 support: no
Measured UKI: no
Boot into FW: supported

Random Seed:
  System Token: not set
No boot loaders listed in EFI variables
tty2: install:/usr/bin #

Now, when I try the install, I’m going round in circles enabling and disabling Secure Boot and still getting the memory issue - can’t even find a config that gets me past that and onto the /boot/efi disk not found!

Any suggestions?

You want to change your procedure and terminate the loop. Software engineers tend to break their products. Thus I checked current openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Current.iso. II (Innate Intelligence, formerly known as Common Sense) tells me to rely on KISS.

Settings used:

  • Secure boot: disabled
  • Expert partitioner: use existing Efi System Partition /dev/sda1, create System Partition /dev/sda4
i4130:~ # fdl
Disk /dev/sda: 465.76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disk model: Samsung SSD 850 
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: BEEDF98F-DA82-4488-A275-F581FA13B9F8

Device      Size Type
/dev/sda1   100M EFI System
/dev/sda2   368G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda3  48.8G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda4  48.8G Linux filesystem

Partition table entries are not in disk order.
i4130:~ # 

System readily installs:

erlangen:~ # ssh karl@tw2026
(karl@tw2026) Password: 
Last login: Tue Jan  6 06:13:00 CET 2026 from :0 on tty2
Have a lot of fun...
karl@tw2026:~>
tw2026:~ # journalctl --list-boots 
IDX BOOT ID                          FIRST ENTRY                 LAST ENTRY                 
  0 23c262b7074f4d2aa7c3320ac63534ee Tue 2026-01-06 06:12:29 CET Tue 2026-01-06 06:21:48 CET
tw2026:~ # 

Please explain what fdl is. I can see from the output, but others may not.

With a new install grub-bls is default and more space is needed for /boot/efi.

Better gives /boot/efi enough space, the article suggests 1 GiB but I would go for 2 GiB or more.

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I would say:

  • Disable FastBoot which, as far as I understand, is mostly for Windows and can prevent the Linux kernel from fully probbe and manage hardware
  • As written above, allocate more space to ESP Efi System Partition as there is a move towards installations compliant with Boot Loader Specification (BLS)
  • Unless it really prevents you from installing, I wouldn’t disable SecureBoot
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I use 4G for /boot/efi everywhere now using grub-bls, grub-efi or systemd-boot…

lsblk -f

NAME   FSTYPE FSVER LABEL    UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
sda                                                                              
├─sda1 vfat   FAT32 ESP      9AC6-5AA2                               3.9G     2% /boot/efi
└─sda2 btrfs        TW010126 a21a6810-1a8e-48be-8d0a-08980f087673  100.7G    11% /var
                                                                                 /usr/local
                                                                                 /srv
                                                                                 /root
                                                                                 /home
                                                                                 /opt
                                                                                 /.snapshots
                                                                                 /
sdb                                                                              
└─sdb1 ext4   1.0   DATA     22fc9318-689e-45fd-94ec-87444bd42ed8    6.7T     2% /data
sdc                                                                              
sr0                                                                              
zram0  swap   1     zram0    41a7f64c-48ec-45f3-a8f8-a25dcdc01e9a                [SWAP]
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Thanks All (@malcolmlewis @opsusemaco @marel @karlmistelberger )
I think I better understand what I need to do but I can no longer get beyond the ../../grub-core/kern/mm.c:584/out of memory message. If I do get beyond that, I’d be able to allocate 2-3GiB to /boot/efi and I think I’d have it fixed. Unfortunately Fast Boot is Disabled and I’ve tried Secure Boot both Enabled & Disabled but I still get the out of memory message.

There’s a Secure Boot Mode set to standard. If I change it to Custom there are some dangerous looking options that become available:

Restore Factory Keys
Reset To Setup Mode
Enter Audit Mode
Enter Deployed Mode <-- as distinct from the User mode currently
Key Management

Not keen on playing with those unless One of you knows it to be a problem or a solution

Also, in Settings → Miscellaneous → Trusted Computing → TPM 2.0 Device Found
and Security Device Support Enabled

To the O.P. You can probably use an older snapshot to install tumbleweed. Then do a zypper dup after install.
I tend to agree with you, I think there’s something off with the latest snapshot from mid December 2025. I had an issue after the mid December snapshot like selinux blocking tumbler and flickering panel in Xfce 4.20. Get a snapshot from maybe late November to early December and see if there will be a difference.

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I’ve given up and plumped for Leap 16
Seems to install fine so far.
At a guess, I’d say Tumbleweed’s broken somehow. If not, It shouldn’t be this difficult and it’s a UX fail.

Thanks All

The question is where to get an older .ISO.

http://download.opensuse.org/history/ has older kernel packages, though no ISO’s.

I think I’m OK with Leap 16 for a bit but having tried to use the storage configurator.
OMFG - I need a long word about user experience with whoever designed that. What a disaster!!!
I know what I want to achieve and this just refuses to let me do it. The YAST expert version is/was SO much better.

I used openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20251231-Media.iso here for a recent install.

It might help if you could take a photo and share this partitioning scheme.