I managed to install 16.0 beta only to find that my favorite GUI XFCE does not come with Wayland. So I am trying to re-install with KDE to learn how Wayland works. I didn’t get very far. To a command line and startx does not give me an available choice. Any suggestion will be appreciated.
What did you end up with initially??
Any DE at all, or just a command line??
The installer should have presented the available Desktop Environment choices (like GNOME, KDE, etc).
To be clear, Wayland is not a Desktop Environment… it’s the low level protocol specifies how a display server and applications (like DE) should communicate.
In simple terms, you don’t interact with Wayland, the DE does it in the background.
I understand that, but since I have an installation of 15.6 with KDE (I don’t use) I thought I would compare performance of the two.
@ionmich and your trying to install on newish hardware (less that 5 years old)?
Two identical desktops less than four years old.
@ionmich and you created the installer medium how?
I cannot parse this sentence.
Explain what you did so that others who were not staying behind your shoulder can also understand it.
Downloaded both online and offline images from openSUSE Leap 16.0 - Get openSUSE and used Studio Imagewriter to a USB.
Sorry for the layout. No copy and paste.
It booted to a command line “localhost login:”
I logged in first as user and then as root and executed “startx”
Response “no provider of ‘startx’ found”
So I did a dup and tried again.
This time it suggested I install xinit which I did.
I invoked startx again and this time it told me “you did not install any x-server like Xorg”
Zypper tells me no Xorg available to install.
Do you have internet connectivity? Did the XFCE desktop get installed?
zypper se -s xfce
If not, have you tried installing the pattern with
sudo zypper install -t pattern xfce4
That should bring in any missing dependencies (including the requisite Xorg environment).
Please show commands and output, otherwise we can only speculate.
Since I was booted into my Leap 16 Beta (in a VM), I fired up Myrlyn and yes, XFCE is available.
Odd that it wasn’t “available” to the OP during installation.
This is from an initial upgrade 5 months ago from 15.6, after a fresh dup minutes ago:
# inxi -GSz
System:
Kernel: 6.12.0-160000.13-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: KDE v: 3.5.10 Distro: openSUSE Leap 16.0 Beta
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics
driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.15 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1: 1680x1050~60Hz
2: 2560x1440~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast
platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.3.3
renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2)
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.309 drivers: intel,llvmpipe surfaces: xcb,xlib
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo x11: xdriinfo,
xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
# zypper --no-refresh se -s -i x11 xorg yland | egrep -v 'debug|devel|srcp|openSUSE-20' | egrep 'x86|noarch'| sort -f
i | ghostscript-x11 | package | 10.05.0-160000.1.4 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libva-wayland2 | package | 2.22.0-160000.1.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libva-x11-2 | package | 2.22.0-160000.1.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libwayland-client0 | package | 1.23.1-160000.1.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libwayland-cursor0 | package | 1.23.1-160000.1.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libwayland-egl1 | package | 1.23.1-160000.1.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libwayland-server0 | package | 1.23.1-160000.1.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libX11-6 | package | 1.8.10-160000.2.5 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libX11-data | package | 1.8.10-160000.2.5 | noarch | OSS
i | libX11-xcb1 | package | 1.8.10-160000.2.5 | x86_64 | OSS
i | libxkbcommon-x11-0 | package | 1.8.0-160000.1.11 | x86_64 | OSS
i | patterns-base-x11 | package | 20200505-lp160.4.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | perl-X11-Protocol | package | 0.56-160000.2.6 | noarch | OSS
i | x11 | pattern | 20200505-lp160.4.8 | x86_64 | OSS
i | x11-tools | package | 0.1-160000.1.7 | noarch | OSS
i | xorg-x11 | package | 7.6_1-bp160.3.9 | noarch | OSS
i | xorg-x11-essentials | package | 7.6_1-bp160.3.9 | noarch | OSS
i | xorg-x11-fonts-core | package | 7.6-160000.2.1 | noarch | OSS
i | xorg-x11-server | package | 21.1.15-160000.3.7 | x86_64 | OSS
i | xorg-x11-server-Xvfb | package | 21.1.15-160000.3.7 | x86_64 | OSS
i | xorg-x11-server-extra | package | 21.1.15-160000.3.7 | x86_64 | OSS
i | yast2-x11 | package | 5.0.2-160000.1.4 | x86_64 | OSS
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Probably most xorg/x11 packages I have installed that you don’t you’ll need too.
It’s really not clear on what they found/tried etc.
Thank you. This is the most promising information so far.
I had a similar problem and got a link to a much more recent image from the beta testing crew as part of the response to a bug report. The link at the Leap 16 Beta is not the latest, and it only showed two of the available window managers the last time I checked…
It is better not to show all available DEs on openSUSE for inexperienced users. Show them 2 most supported.