It’d require cooperation with those teams but that’d make it possible to update both flatpaks and other stuff at the same time. Also friendlier for new users who are afraid of white mono text on a black background.
KDE Discover and Gnome Software are software managers from the respective DE. It is unlikely that zypper dup gets implemented, as it is specific to only one single linux distribution. If you want this, you need to raise an enhancement request at upstream.
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This might work as long as there are no dependency problems, but if there are any, zypper needs to go interactive to report the problem and to let you choose one of the available solutions; so the whole thing would need to run in a terminal window.
You can do that already with a .desktop file that simply runs zypper dup (and make sure to check “ Run in Terminal Window”). But it has the exact same problem as Myrlyn: You need to run it as root, and prompt for the password. See myrlyn-sudo for a sample implementation. Or use kde-su.
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KDE Discover and Gnome-Software both use PackageKit on the backend for installation of RPMs. You’re barking up the wrong tree.
And PackageKit already handles dup operations just fine.
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Rather than asking KDE or GNOME to pretty please implement special considerations for one of the more niche package managers, I would rather they just provided an option to disable system package management.
Discover is nice as a pretty front-end for FlatHub, but Myrlyn is much better suited for system packages.
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They do.
If you’re using Plasma, just run zypper rm discover6-backend-packagekit
If you’re using GNOME, zypper rm gnome-software-plugin-packagekit
This has been the case as long as these tools have been around, as far as I know.
gnome-software and discover don’t know a darn thing about flatpaks, rpms, snaps, or anything else, without the requisite backend plugins installed.
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Thank you! That is exactly what I wanted.
A while back I searched for how to get around Discover wanting to update my system packages and the only answers I had ever found were some variant “Just update in Zypper first before updating in Discover.” I hadn’t thought it was so simple as removing a plugin.
This is great.
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