Steam from games:/tool rerpository

Hello,
for my information: has someone already tried to install and use the steam package from the games:/tools repository?

@thibdb13 It won’t work… use the flatpak version as per the Release Notes?

zypper in selinux-policy-targeted-gaming
update-bootloader --add-option ia32_emulation=1
update-bootloader
systemctl reboot

flatpak --user install com.valvesoftware.Steam
flatpak --user run com.valvesoftware.Steam

I know I could use the flatpak but I’d like not to…
And anyway on Tumbleweed, it is still possible to go the “classical” way.

@thibdb13 yes AFAIK (for the moment) Tumbleweed should be fine, Leap 16.0 nope…

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By the way, what is then the reason there is a package on games:/tools when it is known it will not work?

@thibdb13 you would need to ask the maintainer… I see there is some support for 32bit, but likely still not supported due to missing libraries…

https://build.opensuse.org/projects/games:tools/packages/steam/files/steam.changes?expand=1

Why should someone do this?
This package from flathub is not from valve!
Its not official!

@ecsos it’s the recommendation since it’s not available for Leap from the default (official) repositories. Users are quite free to do what they want… will it work, who knows…

Bear in mind, the openSUSE Non Free Steam package is also not ‘official’ it’s community packaged, just like the flatpak…

Well, I’m surprised and I can’t understand how anyone could recommend that. If the flatpak were from Valve, it might be acceptable. But not like this. Security!
And whether I use a package created by the SUSE community or by unknown IDs is, in my opinion, a huge difference.
And if you don’t trust the SUSE maintainer, you can’t and shouldn’t install SUSE at all. Then there wouldn’t be a single programme. So your comparison is extremely flawed.

@ecsos but if the 32bit library support is not in Leap 16.0, it will be come a dependency nightmare for the user?

Unfortunately, that’s correct.
And I would like to see at least prominent programmes such as steam or wine, including their dependencies, continue to be offered by SUSE in the repositories. And I am aware that this also includes 32-bit packages.
Unless you want to present Leap as a pure server system.

You seem to be thinking packages in the ‘SUSE repos’ are special or ‘more safe’ than any other. They honestly aren’t. They’re all community provided, it’s just that some community provided packages are pulled into Factory to make them easily available without having to add the originating repository.

Being in Factory should not really be considered a strong indication of safety. I don’t know why you would consider the ‘suse community’ more trustworthy than the ‘flatpack community’

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I am well aware of that. But I have to trust someone. If I don’t, I can’t install Suse or any other distribution at all. I have been using Linux for 30 years and know how the packages work.
But suggesting something from Flatpak, which isn’t even from Valve, is an absolute security risk.

But again, as has been pointed out, this is -

  • no different than the SUSE packages, Flatpack is just as large and visible community. If you think you can review SUSE packages, you can review Flatpacks.
  • the SUSE package is also not from Valve and never was.

Both the Flatpack and SUSE package are repackages of the one official package. Valve only officially packages for Debian. Unless you are using Debian, or a Steamdeck, you are not using the official package. Quite frankly, almost no package in the SUSE repositories are official packages, so you can’t have that much of a problem with it.

You are trying to argue a difference that doesn’t really exist.

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