suctoaun wrote:
> DenverD;1850792 Wrote:
>>> SUSE 10.3: WHERE IS THE TERMINAL? … I wasted a few hours looking
>> hmmmm, but did you click on the system menu (at the bottom of the
>> screen, in the left corner of a default install of both KDE and Gnome)
>> and browse around…or type ‘terminal’ in the search blank there??
>>
>> or did you try the terminals available in most any distro by pressing
>> Ctrl+Alt+Fn where n = 1 thru 6 (and F7 brings you back to the GUI)??
>>
>>
>
> * My Response:* The bold font is used to illustrate how one could
> easily one can infer that your thought process was as follows: "There
> is no excuse that one could offer for not being able to find a terminal
> in Suse: The rebuttal is that I never had trouble finding a terminal in
> Fedora, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Linux,DSL or Knoppix or windows. Therefore,
> the only X-factor is how Suse arranges info.
i went to the web forum to try to see what you were talking about with
the “bold font” remark…and i can’t see a bold font there either…so,
i don’t understand that remark…
as far as trying to infer my thought process…i don’t understand that
either…
i didn’t say or intend to say that there was no excuse that you couldn’t
find it…i was, however surprised, that you apparently didn’t see a
terminal icon and instead of looking in the menu went to google…
i can also find terminals in RH, Fedora, Ubuntu etc etc etc and
have…because if i don’t see it on the task bar i pop open the menu
and look for it under something similar to system > utils or config…
i would always do that before going to google for three hours…ymmv
>
> DenverD;1850792 Wrote:
>> perhaps a few other openSuSE basics you might need are in
>> ‘Concepts - openSUSE’ (http://tinyurl.com/66h4rw)
>>
>>
>
> * My Response:* Some might say that the connotation of the preceding
> sentence is ambiguous and not necessarily positive. I choose to see it
> as a positive.
well look, you seemed to be saying that SuSE was so different from all
the others that you were completely lost…well, did you LOOK at that
URL, it is titled “Basic openSUSE Linux concepts” and i thought it might
be HELPFUL to you…
> DenverD;1850792 Wrote:
>> otoh i also found it impossible to search for and find: How to
>> open a terminal. AMAZINGLY inept is both google and
>> help.opensuse.org’s
>> search algorithm in that task…
>>
>>
>
> * My Response:* This is either a statement intended to say that perhaps
> you believe that’s it’s disappointing that one cannot find this info in
> Google, and moreover, it’s inconceivable to think that some of Suse
> 10.3’s search programs cannot easily find this most basic yet utterly
> important piece of info.
i meant that it seemed pure stupid to me that it IS impossible (i know
because i TRIED also) to find out how the heck “to open a terminal”…
it is impossible to find via google, in the opensuse wiki or web
forum…well, it is impossible for me to find in about an hour (which
was the LIMIT of my patience!)
>
> DenverD;1850792 Wrote:
>> it is a most basic instruction give here “Open a terminal and…” and
>> i
>> can’t learn how to do that without asking!!
>>
>>
>
> My Response: Either you now have first hand knowledge of how
> difficult it is to find this information, or this is a thinly disguised
> effort to mock me. In all honesty, I can not discern your feelings
> although I do admit a certain curiosity for civil and perhaps tactical
> reasons, should such a need arise.
i was not mocking…i had TRIED it and could NOT believe how really
difficult it is to learn how to “open a terminal”…
>
> DenverD;1850792 Wrote:
>> most popular software is installable via YaST (standard GUI package
>> management thingy for SuSE) or a 10.3 new apt- or yum-like (if you
>> speak
>> Debian or RH) package manager named zypper [see man]…
>>
>> oh, that “see man” means to:
>>
>> - hold down the Alt key and press F2
>>
>> - type konsole (if using KDE) gnome-terminal (if using Gnome) or
>> xterm
>> (for most any X) and press enter
>> [or use the menu to nav to a terminal icon]
>>
>> - then, in the new pops up, type man zypper and press enter
>>
>> have fun
>>
>> –
>> DenverD (Linux Counter 282315)
>> A Texan in Denmark
>>
> My Response: A response would be welcome
you got it…i tried to figure out how to do it on the web site and
couldn’t!!
> Cheers: Thanks for the Debian scoop! Regards
i don’t know what that mean? unless it means: thanks for the tip to try
zypper which is kinda like the apt i’m used to…
peace…don’t try to read too deep into what i write…i try to write
WHAT I MEAN to say, clearly…that is, if i thought you were too stupid
to find an obvious and easily found terminal i would have done one of
two things:
–
DenverD (Linux Counter 282315)
A Texan in Denmark