RTF & Libreoffice Question

Hi.

I’m writing my BA in Libreoffice, and it’s demanded of me that I send it in .rtf once it’s finished. Now, my question is, does MS Office open rtf documents from Libreoffice exactly as they are, or do I have to use MS Office for it?

Much obliged.

On 2014-08-08 22:46, holden87 wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I’m writing my BA in Libreoffice, and it’s demanded of me that I send it
> in .rtf once it’s finished. Now, my question is, does MS Office open rtf
> documents from Libreoffice exactly as they are, or do I have to use MS
> Office for it?

Excuse me, but I don’t see how this question is related to multimedia?
This is the multimedia forum. It would be better asked in the
application forum.

In the past, I did not have much luck with rtf files. They don’t look
the same everywhere.

You really would have to try and see it on some machine with Windows, to
find out.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

Questions about media applications, codecs (DVD, music, video, pdf) configuration (usage, bugs)

I assumed based on this.

On 2014-08-09 11:56, holden87 wrote:

>> Questions about media applications, codecs (DVD, music, video, -pdf-)
>> configuration (usage, bugs)
>
> I assumed based on this.

Oh.

As I access via nntp, I never see those headers. I don’t understand what
“PDF” has to do with multimedia, but if the forum admins considers it
does… ok, so be it.

But you are asking about RTF, not PDF :wink:

RTF was an old attempt at cross-application complex text sharing, but
not very successful. So at least your people are sensitive to that
issue. But there are more modern standards that should be better -
although Microsoft has its own standard, and LibreOffice another. One is
…docx (Office Open XML), and the other, er… Open Document Format for
Office Applications (ODF), extension .odt. Both sides should support the
format of the other side, and IMO, should work better than .rtf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODF


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

The rtf format is pretty robust; it has been around for a long time. I have never had any trouble with rtf files (except when the recipients don’t realise they can open them in MS Office). I have also been able in the past to rescue corrupt doc files by saving them as rtf.

On 2014-08-09 23:56, john hudson wrote:
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> The rtf format is pretty robust; it has been around for a long time. I
> have never had any trouble with rtf files (except when the recipients
> don’t realise they can open them in MS Office). I have also been able in
> the past to rescue corrupt doc files by saving them as rtf.

My documents are typically complex, with figures, tables, specific
formatting… I always had problems.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

Yes RTF is essentially a text format. Anything that involves fancy formating will cause problems. The answer with a thesis is to put all the images and tables in separate appendices at the end of the document.

It’s a humanities thesis, so it should be only (mostly) text. So as long as it’s text, i’m in the clear pretty much? But i will try it out :slight_smile:

Should be no problem. Remember that, before computers, theses had to be typed. So you couldn’t put images in the body of the thesis. Figures were laboriously created out of spacing text on the page (much like some of the ASCII images you see from DOS days) and tables were simply indented columns. You can still do all these things in RTF. In 1986 I did my Masters thesis in WordStar with fixed width fonts - the only differences from a typewriter were the justified text and the automatic page numbering.

On 2014-08-11 22:16, john hudson wrote:
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> Should be no problem. Remember that, before computers, theses had to be
> typed. So you couldn’t put images in the body of the thesis.

Of course you could :slight_smile:

You did the drawing on a blank piece of paper, and then typed the text
on a second step, around the image. Or in reverse order. Or glued a
photo, and then perhaps made a photocopy of both.

There were tricks.

Nowdays, some of my friends tell me they use Latex (even in Windows),
and handle out a very professional looking PDF. Using any form of Office
or LibreOffice would be complete anathema.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

In the 1980s there were no PCs running LaTeX - so that was out of the question for humble mortals. However, I did have vector graphics courtesy of Dr Draw and Dr Graph that produced stunning vector graphics - it just took 3 minutes to redraw the screen after each addition and 40 minutes to print out the page to include in your thesis.

On 2014-08-12 23:16, john hudson wrote:
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> In the 1980s there were no PCs running LaTeX - so that was out of the
> question for humble mortals.

I probably didn’t even know it existed :slight_smile:

A friend of mine used a strange software package, around 1989, a word
processor with strong support for math formulas, but I have forgotten
the name. I think he worked in text mode, and then it generated the
graphics. Not latex. Calligraphy or similar name. Now this same person
uses Latex.

> However, I did have vector graphics
> courtesy of Dr Draw and Dr Graph that produced stunning vector graphics
> - it just took 3 minutes to redraw the screen after each addition and 40
> minutes to print out the page to include in your thesis.

LOL.

Yes, I once tried autocad in my 8086 machine. It had a sample file of St
Paul Cathedral, I think. I told it to remove hidden lines and print - it
took about a day! (keeping my fingers crossed that nobody in the
student residence caused a power fuse trip-over, which happened often)

I could process text with graphics, and print them (slowly: 9 pin
printer!). My problem was how to transfer the graphics to the computer,
without anything like a scanner or a camera, or an “input tablet”. So it
was only graphs from tables, electronic schematics that had been drawn
on the computer anyway, etc.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)