Hi,
I previously ran SuSe and then openSUSE for several years on an older computer.
I am looking at buying a new HP and I was wondering if the new processors, e.g., i5-750 quad-core processor, will work with openSUSE.
Is there anything I need to be aware of when shopping for a new computer that I want to run Linux on?
Thanks!
jina
The CPU will work fine and it’ll be utilized accordingly - we have a bunch of i5s and i7s that work bueno.
I don’t know about the i5, but the i7 920 works well for me.
My main PC (especially for video editing/rendering) is a 64-bit Intel Core i7 920 w/6GB RAM (on an Asus P6T Deluxe V2 motherboard) w/ PCI-e nVidia GeForce GTX260 graphics, running openSUSE-11.2 on KDE-4.3.5.
Its always useful to do a bit of research first to confirm the motherboard, graphics, wireless, webcam, cd/dvd-writer and sound device work with openSUSE prior to purchase. It used to be necessary to check for sata compatibility, but not so much anymore, as most sata devices work ok.
with the current state of affairs i recommend you use nVidia graphics…
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palladium
I am a BIG nVidia fan, and I would agree if this is a desktop.
If its a laptop, I would lean toward ATI (for quality reasons) even though driver support will lag nVidia significantly. I know a number of people who have had serious grief with nVidia hardware with their laptops.
I’m using an AMD X4 945 3.0 GHz running openSUSE 11.2. It’s working great. It’s noticeably faster than the previous 2.2 GHz dual core. And 8 GB of 1333 Mhz ram.
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 22:46 +0000, oldcpu wrote:
> palladium;2130234 Wrote:
> > with the current state of affairs i recommend you use nVidia graphics…I am a BIG nVidia fan, and I would agree if this is a desktop.
>
> If its a laptop, I would lean toward ATI (for quality reasons) even
> though driver support will lag nVidia significantly. I know a number of
> people who have had serious grief with nVidia hardware with their
> laptops.
While true (with regards to the Nvidia GPU burn out issues), ATI
GPUs in CURRENT laptops might not work well at all without
updating to the latest version of radeonhd driver (a manual process)…
and even so… things might not work right.
If you’re not doing massive 3d (mainly gaming), then you might
want to look at Intel GPUs with regards to laptops.
I will admit my most stable desktops and laptops (apart from the
GPU burn out issue) are Nvidia based. It’s a gamble with Intel
GPU’s on the laptop side. I have an EB 2530p with a 4500MHD and
it works great on oS 11.1 (with modified KDE4). I’ve heard that
some have had issues with oS 11.2… I just haven’t tried it on that
yet… sort of waiting for oS 11.3 (just to avoid all of the KDE 4
issues).
So ATI MIGHT be better hardwise, but it’s not really there
driver wise… not yet…
I agree re: it being a gamble on the Intel side for graphics. Our Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo 7400M works with openSUSE-11.1 and 3D, but NOT with 11.2. Turns out a change to the kernel from 2.6.27 to 2.6.31 broke the Intel graphic driver for that model hardware and that still has not been sorted in the latest 2.6.33 kernel.
A friend with Intel graphics can only get openSUSE-11.0, 11.1 and 11.2 to run with fbdev driver at 800x600. But 10.3 works ok with the i810 driver. Intel driver does not work and progress to fix the problem is pathetic. There are various bug reports on this that have been known for sometime and Intel have not sorted it.
So in the laptop world, things are not smooth, …
My view with a laptop is to simply accept that one has to wait for a good ATI driver, and go with ATI hardware. I can’t afford the poor quality of nVidia hardware (GPU) in a laptop, where a failure on the road is devastating. … and Intel record IMHO is far worse than ATI when it comes to timeliness of driver/kernel fixes.
Desktops? For me its nVidia without question. If a desktop card fails I can put in a replacement in a handful of minutes. I can’t do that with a laptop. Hence I am a BIG nVidia fan for desktop hardware.
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 20:26 +0000, oldcpu wrote:
> cjcox;2130769 Wrote:
> > If you’re not doing massive 3d (mainly gaming), then you might want to
> > look at Intel GPUs with regards to laptops.
> >
> > … It’s a gamble with Intel GPU’s on the laptop side. … I agree re: it being a gamble on the Intel side for graphics. Our
> Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo 7400M works with openSUSE-11.1 and 3D, but NOT
> with 11.2. Turns out a change to the kernel from 2.6.27 to 2.6.31 broke
> the Intel graphic driver for that model hardware and that still has not
> been sorted in the latest 2.6.33 kernel.
>
> A friend with Intel graphics can only get openSUSE-11.0, 11.1 and 11.2
> to run with fbdev driver at 800x600. But 10.3 works ok with the i810
> driver. Intel driver does not work and progress to fix the problem is
> pathetic. There are various bug reports on this that have been known
> for sometime and Intel have not sorted it.
Actually I have an i810 and oddly enough on that little 256M machine
with a 1 Ghz P3, it can drive my 1920x1200 display at 1920x1200… I
never even saw Windows do that. This using oS 11.2.
I guess there are other factors that might cause issues.
>
> So in the laptop world, things are not smooth, …
I do recommend that people do a LOT of research. And when possible
I do update the HCL as laptops come across my desk for things.
But a lot of times, the info is dated… laptops are old… and
people want to know RIGHT NOW what works and HP/Dell/IBM do NOT
care (nor do they even try to build laptops with good components…
strictly looking to build cheap and for Windows ONLY).
>
> My view with a laptop is to simply accept that one has to wait for a
> good ATI driver, and go with ATI hardware. I can’t afford the poor
I AM looking forward to that and I AM impressed by what I’ve
seen out of the radeonhd work so far. It’s better than I imagined.
> quality of nVidia hardware (GPU) in a laptop, where a failure on the
> road is devastating. … and Intel record IMHO is far worse than ATI
> when it comes to timeliness of driver/kernel fixes.
Agreed. Flaming death. I buy Dells+Nvidia at home with CC warranty…
but it is a pain getting the motherboard replaced every year or so.
>
> Desktops? For me its nVidia without question. If a desktop card fails I
> can put in a replacement in a handful of minutes. I can’t do that with a
> laptop. Hence I am a BIG nVidia fan for desktop hardware.
Yep. BUT still… no ADVANCED features that are being worked on by xorg
like randr, etc. Nvidia lives in their own world… not well
integrated and one day, I believe they’ll have to drop Linux altogether
(or go open source, unlikely though, I believe there’s too much
liability if information were revealed).
Hi geeks,
sorry for interfering this thread… but …
Actually I’m using a Fujitsu S710 mit Intel i5 on an openSUSE 11.2 and it does really support BIOS/Acpi Features.
Fan is always running and if I shutdown and close the lid, the system will boot up again even the lid is closed!
I also tried the actualy kernel 2.6.34 but with no success…
I hope openSUSE 11.3 will support the i5 better…
cheers
andrew