On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 20:26 +0000, oldcpu wrote:
> cjcox;2130769 Wrote:
> > If you’re not doing massive 3d (mainly gaming), then you might want to
> > look at Intel GPUs with regards to laptops.
> > … It’s a gamble with Intel GPU’s on the laptop side. … I agree re: it being a gamble on the Intel side for graphics. Our
> Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo 7400M works with openSUSE-11.1 and 3D, but NOT
> with 11.2. Turns out a change to the kernel from 2.6.27 to 2.6.31 broke
> the Intel graphic driver for that model hardware and that still has not
> been sorted in the latest 2.6.33 kernel.
> A friend with Intel graphics can only get openSUSE-11.0, 11.1 and 11.2
> to run with fbdev driver at 800x600. But 10.3 works ok with the i810
> driver. Intel driver does not work and progress to fix the problem is
> pathetic. There are various bug reports on this that have been known
> for sometime and Intel have not sorted it.
Actually I have an i810 and oddly enough on that little 256M machine
with a 1 Ghz P3, it can drive my 1920x1200 display at 1920x1200… I
never even saw Windows do that. This using oS 11.2.
I guess there are other factors that might cause issues.
> So in the laptop world, things are not smooth, …
I do recommend that people do a LOT of research. And when possible
I do update the HCL as laptops come across my desk for things.
But a lot of times, the info is dated… laptops are old… and
people want to know RIGHT NOW what works and HP/Dell/IBM do NOT
care (nor do they even try to build laptops with good components…
strictly looking to build cheap and for Windows ONLY).
> My view with a laptop is to simply accept that one has to wait for a
> good ATI driver, and go with ATI hardware. I can’t afford the poor
I AM looking forward to that and I AM impressed by what I’ve
seen out of the radeonhd work so far. It’s better than I imagined.
> quality of nVidia hardware (GPU) in a laptop, where a failure on the
> road is devastating. … and Intel record IMHO is far worse than ATI
> when it comes to timeliness of driver/kernel fixes.
Agreed. Flaming death. I buy Dells+Nvidia at home with CC warranty…
but it is a pain getting the motherboard replaced every year or so.
> Desktops? For me its nVidia without question. If a desktop card fails I
> can put in a replacement in a handful of minutes. I can’t do that with a
> laptop. Hence I am a BIG nVidia fan for desktop hardware.
Yep. BUT still… no ADVANCED features that are being worked on by xorg
like randr, etc. Nvidia lives in their own world… not well
integrated and one day, I believe they’ll have to drop Linux altogether
(or go open source, unlikely though, I believe there’s too much
liability if information were revealed).