I treated myself to a HP Envy 700-230EA at the weekend - Core 7 & 16 ram etc. Although I partly wish I hadn’t bothered as it seems no faster than my middle of the road 2 year old AMD system.
I found the HP guide on how to install a 2nd O/S using a DVD (disable secure boot / enable legacy boot / choose ATAPI CD/DVD as the 1st boot option). This worked fine and a boot entry for Opensuse was added to the boot order options. I left the ATAPI CD/DVD as the first option / had opensuse as option 2 - with the Windows Bootloader as option 3.
With no CD/DVD drive the p/c automatically boots into Opensuse. When I re-boot it automatically boots into opensuse etc. But whenever I boot into Windows - windows sets itself as the first bootloader option. So I am having to re-set the boot loader option after everytime I use Windows back to Opensuse (which is a bit of a pain in th bum).
Has anyone any experience in locking HP EFI settings. I think that I found a clue last night. I can set opensuse as the first boot option using F10 the bios settings but if I use F9 the booting options - it will not allow me to set opensuse as the first option. I think that this is to do with a setting in the bios ‘use HP keys’. If I switch this off, set opensuse as the first boot option (using F10) and then re-boot and use F9 it will then allow me to mark opensuse as the first option. But whenever I boot into windows it is re-setting itself as the first boot option and changing ‘use HP keys’ to ‘yes’.
Hm, not an answer. But I am in about the same situation as you with an HP Pavilion 500-301nd.
Did the same BIOS changes as you (found by myself, did not see that documented, but nice to see you did the same).
Difference is that I wiped Windows off the disk during install. The system does not see my openSUSE system as bootable on first reboot during installation. That is different from your problem, thus I will not mix my problem with yours, but will watch this with interest.
I think the answer to your problem is as below - as am guessing that when your system boots it is linked to using the HP booting key and can’t find this in the Opensuse efi key settings:
start your p/c and press the delete button constantly to reach the bios options come up
when the bios options come up press esc for the menu
select F10
select the security tab (third along from memory)
select the security settings option (bottom option)
In any case, thanks for your answer. Butt now happens what I wanted to avoid, swamping your problem with mine rotfl!
What I will do now is start a new thread with my full description. I will also point to your answer and what I did with it. Thus just a few minutes and you will see my thread starting.
I treated myself to a HP Envy 700-230EA at the weekend - Core 7 & 16 ram
etc. Although I partly wish I hadn’t bothered as it seems no faster
than my middle of the road 2 year old AMD system.
I found the HP guide on how to install a 2nd O/S using a DVD (disable
secure boot / enable legacy boot / choose ATAPI CD/DVD as the 1st boot
option). This worked fine and a boot entry for Opensuse was added to
the boot order options. I left the ATAPI CD/DVD as the first option /
had opensuse as option 2 - with the Windows Bootloader as option 3.
With no CD/DVD drive the p/c automatically boots into Opensuse. When I
re-boot it automatically boots into opensuse etc. But whenever I boot
into Windows - windows sets itself as the first bootloader option. So
I am having to re-set the boot loader option after everytime I use
Windows back to Opensuse (which is a bit of a pain in th bum).
Has anyone any experience in locking HP EFI settings. I think that I
found a clue last night. I can set opensuse as the first boot option
using F10 the bios settings but if I use F9 the booting options - it
will not allow me to set opensuse as the first option. I think that
this is to do with a setting in the bios ‘use HP keys’. If I switch
this off, set opensuse as the first boot option (using F10) and then
re-boot and use F9 it will then allow me to mark opensuse as the first
option. But whenever I boot into windows it is re-setting itself as the
first boot option and changing ‘use HP keys’ to ‘yes’.
Many thanks
Hi
If it’s like my HP 2000 system win 8.1/openSUSE since I mainly boot
into openSUSE I set the efibootmgr boot next option to openSUSE. If
booting into windows I see your issue, I just press the F9 key and
select the openSUSE efi file then it continues to boot into openSUSE
until the next time…
The windows bcdedit option may work for you, it doesn’t on the HP 2000.
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I think am stuck! The HP efi keys efi setting turned out to be a deadend.
I think that the EFI settings must be intergrated some how with the windows 8.1 installation - as when I run efibootmgr it does not even list the windows boot manager.
With HP EFI settings you have to enable legacy mode (and disable secure
boot) to be able to boot using a CD/DVD.
Hi
Not on my HP 2000 or HP ProBook 4440s. I can enable/disable in either
secure boot or legacy.
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>I treated myself to a HP Envy 700-230EA at the weekend - Core 7 & 16 ram
>etc. Although I partly wish I hadn’t bothered as it seems no faster
>than my middle of the road 2 year old AMD system.
>
>
>
>I found the HP guide on how to install a 2nd O/S using a DVD (disable
>secure boot / enable legacy boot / choose ATAPI CD/DVD as the 1st boot
>option). This worked fine and a boot entry for Opensuse was added to
>the boot order options. I left the ATAPI CD/DVD as the first option /
>had opensuse as option 2 - with the Windows Bootloader as option 3.
>
>
>
>With no CD/DVD drive the p/c automatically boots into Opensuse. When I
>re-boot it automatically boots into opensuse etc. But whenever I boot
>into Windows - windows sets itself as the first bootloader option. So
>I am having to re-set the boot loader option after everytime I use
>Windows back to Opensuse (which is a bit of a pain in th bum).
>
>Has anyone any experience in locking HP EFI settings. I think that I
>found a clue last night. I can set opensuse as the first boot option
>using F10 the bios settings but if I use F9 the booting options - it
>will not allow me to set opensuse as the first option. I think that
>this is to do with a setting in the bios ‘use HP keys’. If I switch
>this off, set opensuse as the first boot option (using F10) and then
>re-boot and use F9 it will then allow me to mark opensuse as the first
>option. But whenever I boot into windows it is re-setting itself as the
>first boot option and changing ‘use HP keys’ to ‘yes’.
>
>Many thanks
Well when i installed 12.3 on to my Dell inspirion 17 laptop (came with
Win 8, I added 7 asap) the openSUSE instructions were very explicit to use
EFI boot for the CD/DVD. This is actually quite necessary for an EFI
install of openSUSE. Try reinstalling with EFI boot from CD/DVD.
My EFI BIOS settings are KAI V80.17 (10/02/2014). Enable legacy is just to allow installing from a cd/dvd not actually install opensuse in legacy mode (with a mbr using grub2 etc). My disk partition is gpt and uses gbrub2-efi as the bootloader.
Am still playing about (so that whenever I use windows it doesn’t reset itself as the 1st boot option). Compared the boot/efi drive as compared to my old AMD which only has three folders - boot, microsodt & opensuse - my hp p/c has a fourth folder called HP. Changed the title to old-HP the p/c through a bit of a wobbly booting into Windows but still re-set windows as the first boot option. The battle goes on …
Hi
The HP one is semi important as you can do BIOS upgrades via this and other things, but can also be on an external usb device. If your not in secure boot mode you can also run an efi shell. On my HP ProBooks I can run a HP efi logo application to set the boot logo, in my case a geeko
The HP one is semi important as you can do BIOS upgrades via this and other things, but can also be on an external usb device. If your not in secure boot mode you can also run an efi shell. On my HP ProBooks I can run a HP efi logo application to set the boot logo, in my case a geeko
Thanks for the info. I had in the past always switched secure boot off but I saw in another of your posts that you have it enabled so I switched it back on.
Hi
Yes if it’s there I would recommend it’s use… I have three systems (HP 2000 and two HP ProBook 4440s) that have secure boot as an option and enabled. The HP ProBook 4430s and the HP ProBook 4525s don’t.
