Hi want like:
https://peakup.org/blog/windows-10-edition-comparison/
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started-19/editions-comparison-19
Because i get mail from developers@suse.com but did no get any answer from what is difference?
The give mail that i can get answer.
So did someone have information what is difference? why Tumbleweed is poor much system setting did not works.
You may have a basic explanation here: https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
Basically, you may prefer Tumbleweed on bleeding edge hardware, or to run / test / develop newer versions of available packages; the price is being prepared to fix things every now and then.
Leap has a stable kernel that maintains compatibility through minor versions and in general needs less maintenance in a production environment. Its core is based on the enterprise SUSE codebase, so you have similar stability.
With the SUSE Enterprise versions you can have professional support (even 24/7) should you need it, but not every application or DE is covered.
Basically, you may prefer Tumbleweed on bleeding edge hardware, or to run / test / develop newer versions of available packages; the price is being prepared to fix things every now and then.
Leap has a stable kernel that maintains compatibility through minor versions and in general needs less maintenance in a production environment. Its core is based on the enterprise SUSE codebase, so you have similar stability.
With the SUSE Enterprise versions you can have professional support (even 24/7) should you need it, but not every application or DE is covered.
yes, but is core the same? so its hard to see difference?
Because issue is support its can be poor support or good? i did not think support give with developing support, get software that works on windows 10 to works on wine HQ or some like that. but did not know if company want to pay i think its reason for many use windows 10 istead of linux in company is because its works more out the box. And come longer with to get most works?
But i can get free support on linux but i did not get developer og understand if some get wrong most of time.
I think most of Tumbleweed is not needet for much usage, and not very good much time, ubuntu 20.04 have less bug i think but is also bleeding edge same with fedora.
I can’t point to a good table but I can give you my opinion from using all 3.
SLE: more stable, more matured version of LEAP with paid support.
LEAP: stable and a bit out of date OS with community support from these forums for example.
TW: up to date, more or less stable OS with community support similar to LEAP.
Based on my experience, SLE is excellent if you buy a license for an expensive proprietary software that supports SLE but otherwise SLE is typically way too outdated for my personal taste. On top of that, since less people use SLE, the “community” support for SLE is rather slow and professional support is rather limited. They obviously do not support “everything” and the repository is quite small. The support line typically ironically finds solutions from OpenSUSE community and provide a well researched solution for a problem in SLE.
LEAP, I used “OpenSUSE 13.2” then "LEAP"ed into LEAP 42.1 and on… It is quite stable but not as stable as the “non-leap” OpenSUSE versions but LEAP also irons out many problems. It’s like a very good medium where you can enjoy relatively new (2 generations behind) development tools while enjoying a fairly stable system (there have been a hiccup or two per year). The community here is very active and reponsive and with an official bug report things get fixed as quickly as 2 week based on my last experience. The only problems is that I wouldn’t call it “entry level” linux because the “default” installation in my opinion is rather rigid and not accomodating for all hardware especially when you have limited storage space.
TW uses up to date (latest generation) development tools and it is actually more stable than people give credit for. Just be mindful that every upgrade may break something simply because a certain package is no longer supported and what gets supported and goes out of support changes rapidly. The community reponse is a bit faster than LEAP and it’s definitely not something I’d recommend as their first linux installation.
To answer your question, “core” if you mean the kernel. No, they are all different versions. If you want wine support, you want community support not professional. Honestly I don’t know about you but I find TW way more stable than W10. The difference is that it is easier to notice broken parts on TW and fix them wheras W10 I have to spend hours on the event log. If you are not used to rolling distribution, I recommend LEAP.
Not clear to me what you are looking for… anyway
Because issue is support its can be poor support or good? i did not think support give with developing support, get software that works on windows 10 to works on wine HQ or some like that. but did not know if company want to pay i think its reason for many use windows 10 istead of linux in company is because its works more out the box. And come longer with to get most works?
In my experience using Win SW through WINE or similar on Linux has been marginal at best and you cannot expect much support on that with any Linux distribution. You may have better chances by running those apps in a virtual machine with Win* on a Linux host.
But i can get free support on linux but i did not get developer og understand if some get wrong most of time.
You cannot get free support on Linux (or anything). You may get free support forums where volunteers (like those writing here) may offer their experience in their spare time.
Or you may file bug reports (see Bugzilla Main Page ) and hope that a developer has time to look into the problem you reported. Even if my experience with openSUSE has been good in general, Your Mileage Might Vary.
I think most of Tumbleweed is not needet for much usage, and not very good much time, ubuntu 20.04 have less bug i think but is also bleeding edge same with fedora.
If you want to run applications reliably, use LEAP. If you want or need the latest (useable) SW versions, use Tumbleweed.
Ubuntu 20.04 uses kernel 5.4.x, Fedora 33 released with kernel 5.8, Tumbleweed is currently at 5.9.12, you are free to use what best suits you.
Yes most of you give good support but missing tecknical information.
I know to add bug in fedora\ubuntu may take 4 year to be looking at so its poor time for fix issue.
I have find out that opensuse Tumbleweed and fedora have setting issue that apps for setting up linux did not works. Example networks and some like that.
One thing i can not explan is software recommendation - How can I convert a .m2ts to .mkv? - Ask Ubuntu
mkvtoolnix
mkvmerge -o output.mkv input.m2ts
Did i do this in ubuntu system its works every time, but in Tubleweed i get issue if i play movie on blueray player its look like file get currupt so its will not play long time? also issue in tumbleweed upgrades is 4.4 GB but other distribution have only 1.4 GB or less upgrades in month.
So is much documentation and poor package that make issue?
When you have a specific problem, you should start a thread about it in the forum, in the best fitting sub-forum, with a good title (to draw the attention of the people you need) and with good information about what you do, expect and get.
This is no place to have vague complaints. Nobody can help with that.
And I do not think that Things are as bad as you paint them. In that case, a lot of problems would be reported here and that is not the case.
Also, it is the way Tumbleweed works that a new snapshot of it may be rather big. Because a new snapshot is in fact a new version of the whole distribution.
When you use Leap, updates will be much smaller, because they only contain some security and recommended updates. I run Leap and update once a week. That is done in minutes.
Btw, this being more a discussion about the merits of different tastes of (open)SUSE and not a direct request for help with an installation/boot/login problem, this thread will be moved to General Chitchat.
Ubuntu 20.04 uses kernel 5.4.x, Fedora 33 released with kernel 5.8, Tumbleweed is currently at 5.9.12, you are free to use what best suits you.
Its can be upgrade:
sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:cappelikan/ppa
sudo apt install mainline
Fedora:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-10-26_Kernel_5.9_Test_Week
https://i.ibb.co/P68fj4G/IMG-1801.jpg
I get this on opensuse Tumbleweed not on fedora or ubuntu, so i guess its more issue on tumbleweed than other distribution.
https://i.ibb.co/SPf1cmC/IMG-1800.jpg
https://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/rosa/mintsources.png
How to set software source in opensuse? Or only available on enteprice linux?
https://documentation.suse.com/soc/9/html/suse-openstack-cloud-crowbar-all/cha-depl-repo-conf.html
And I do not think that Things are as bad as you paint them. In that case, a lot of problems would be reported here and that is not the case.
Also, it is the way Tumbleweed works that a new snapshot of it may be rather big. Because a new snapshot is in fact a new version of the whole distribution.
When you use Leap, updates will be much smaller, because they only contain some security and recommended updates. I run Leap and update once a week. That is done in minutes.
Btw, this being more a discussion about the merits of different tastes of (open)SUSE and not a direct request for help with an installation/boot/login problem, this thread will be moved to General Chitchat.
Issue for me its to much cost and poor expensive with Enterprice version i want more quality yes, i have hear about friend they say opensuse its more issue than other distribution same with Openmandriva but did not know why?
If i did not get more answer i can make new tread but i did not its give much learning about difference the issue its about poor documentation is much issue with linux.
When you do not like it, then do not use it.
Hi
Don’t forget SUSE Package Hub, which has a wide selection of applications and desktop environments (Plasma), if not there it’s only a matter of ensuring it exists in Tumbleweed and the Maintainer will push to backports… it will then appear in SLE and will not negate any SLE support 
Tumbleweed is my desktop daily work horse… it never seems to break, somethings recently have taken a few snapshots to fix, but it has not stopped me using the system. I run SLED 15 SP2 on my laptop (as well as WinX) which is my mobile work horse, no issues there, all the linux apps I need are there, it’s not used much for multimedia, just listening to music, aside from that documents, web browsing, email when out and about…
Leap 15.2 and SLES 15 SP2 for a few servers and also have Leap, Tumbleweed, SLED, SLES and Winx qemu machines on this Tumbleweed desktop.
Too many (unrelated) questions and some rants in this thread, but maybe a few general hints may be useful.
You can find a live list of available mirrors here for Tumbleweed (check the pages for Leap versions if needed).
To quote one of the first few lines:
The master download server, download.opensuse.org, automatically redirects you to a server near you.
But if you find a better mirror and want to stick with that you can simply change the URL of each repository with YaST2-Repositories or zypper (see “man zypper”, at the “Repository Managemen” section).
An openSUSE install is roughly equivalent to a SUSE SLED or SLES install (depending on the “Desktop” or “Server” system role chosen).
Other SUSE products like Cloud Crowbar are commercial only AFAIK.
The documentation for openSUSE is available here and of course it doesn’t include SUSE commercial-only products.
I see that you already found the SUSE documentation.
The master download server, download.opensuse.org, automatically redirects you to a server near you.
I think its very poor server most of openmandriva and opensuse server? its faster to download a iso files than download 4.4 GB upgrades?
Did its get faster with Suse enterprice with download speed? can get up to 10 gigabit download speed?
Can you compare Corsair Force MP600 1TB with up to 4950 MB/s and 4250 MB/s
Will Suse enteprice install it self faster than Opensuse leap or tumbleweed with full installation?
https://mirrors.opensuse.org/list/tumbleweed.html
I think something must be wrong i get only 2 MB\S downloadspeed with opensuse i get much higher with ubuntu or fedora. But i did not know why.
I think something must be wrong i get only 2 MB\S downloadspeed with opensuse i get much higher with ubuntu or fedora. But i did not know why.
I think, this is on the server side.
If you want to compare download speeds, you have to –
Which is why, there is a world-wide network of SUSE/openSUSE servers which mirror the repositories and, usually, chooses the best mirror Server for the Client performing the download … <https://mirrors.opensuse.org/>
The usual rule is, to choose a repository mirror Server geographically near the Client performing the test.
But, due to the capacities of the data-links which make up the Internet infrastructure being used by the Client performing the test, another repository mirror Server may well perform better than the one which is geographically near the Client performing the test …
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But there is possible to find out how fast connector is?
I did not find speed of ](https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors)https://mirrors.opensuse.org/list/tumbleweed.html
Usually, as a private person, you can only inspect the link between your Router @home and your ISP.
Bottom line, as a private person, you can only attempt to test the end-to-end performance between a Client and a Mirror Server …
Regarding server mirrors for system installs and updates, SUSE/openSUSE uses a technology called MirrorBrain
https://en.opensuse.org/MirrorBrain
Although I may be lucky that I live in a part of the world that is mostly well supported, you can see from the above link that MirrorBrain chooses a Server based on obsolete assumptions, primarily that geolocation is the best way to assign a server. Of course, nowadays geolocation can be helpful but cannot be considered definitive in finding the fastest and most responsive server which is better defined by parameters like Server workload, available bandwidth and bandwidth utilization.
You can choose alternative mirrors on your own with information from the following (ie View a list of servers at https://mirrors.opensuse.org)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mirrors
I would recommend running a** traceroute command** from your network to candidate servers, and review the responses from each node… lower response times will mean less latency and better performance and fewer nodes will mean a shorter path. You might want to retest connections to several servers over several days at various times you do updates and installations, after awhile you should get a good idea which Servers perform better than others.
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The above posts in this thread do a reasonably good job of describing differences between SLES/SLED, LEAP and Tumbleweed, but to my knowledge (I don’t profess to have any insider info) a few points should be corrected or clarified…
LEAP and SLES are roughly on the same release schedule and more or less share core components, but the integration of SLES components into LEAP is an ongoing effort. Do not think that LEAP core is the same as SLES today.
Once upon a time before the effort to integrate SLES and LEAP, openSUSE up to 13.2 probably had more in common with Tumbleweed and vice versa. In fact Tumbleweed had an official role as the “Factory” where new versions and modifications in the OS and applications were tested before accepted into “stable” openSUSE. With the integration of SLES and LEAP, I don’t think that under the hood LEAP has the same close relationship with Tumbleweed, so Tumbleweed has had to modify its role and relationship with LEAP. Tumbleweed has continued to be a “Rolling release” which means that it performs full system upgrades instead of incremental updates. Tumbleweed is more accepting of wholesale changes to its parts without reservation compared to LEAP (and SLES) efforts to slow the pace of change, with largely few kernel and framework changes. If you’re using LEAP but want to use only a few of the latest available technology, you can add a repo that provides only those changes instead of undergoing turbulent changes to everything. In other words, there is considerable flexibility how much stability or change you want in your system to support numerous use scenarios.
BTW - Yes, Tumbleweed should be expected to require multiple gigabytes of data upgrading each month. It’s a reflection of the many changes the system undergoes continuously and is a visible difference from LEAP might more typically might require only about a half gigabyte of updates in a busy month.
As for stability…
For as much change that happens on Tumbleweed, it’s remarkable how few bugs we see, and that is due to OpenQA, our automated testing. I wonder how rolling releases in other distros do their testing, I can’t see how they can exist without what is done for Tumbleweed (and Factory)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OpenQA
Status
https://openqa.opensuse.org/
But, don’t be misled by how reliable Tumbleweed appears to be, just by the pure number of changes there is considerable additional risk so I would not recommend it for Line of Production use and as a HostOS for Production use. If a Tumbleweed issue is discovered and fixed within a few days or week, there is a considerable difference between a User losing functionality for that time vs an entire business or multiple essential virtual machines.
Comparing Windows support vs Linux support is almost a subjective experience, IMO the main difference is that even so-called Windows techs are more often than not less skilled for numerous reasons. I have seen and experienced complex difficult problems on Windows the same as I’ve found on Linux. If talking about DevOps, I don’t know that there is any difference doing it well… As always there are plusses and minuses in each environment and different available tools.
Regarding WINE,
AFAIK it provides approximately a Win7 environment, more or less.
In other words, less than what you’d find pushing a Win10 to its limits but adequate for a great many apps.
If you’re interested in this kind of stuff, keep an eye on what Microsoft is doing for Windows/Linux integration, it’s changing rapidly. Microsoft has been submitting plenty of code to the Linux kernel and now includes a full Linux kernel running side by side with the Windows kernel. Full GPU support was announced for WSL recently but without comment pulled back and didn’t release on schedule. There has even been far out there speculation that Microsoft intends to eventually reverse WSL and run Windows on a Linux code base recently (Yeah, I’ll believe that when I see it).
Any comments about applications that have anything to do with proprietary licensed apps or components like transcoding should be reminded that unlike most/many other distros, SUSE/openSUSE has a very strict policy on licensing so unless you install from non-openSUSE repos like Packman, your app won’t likely work correctly.
Bottom line is that if anything doesn’t work exactly as it should, don’t rely on help on other places like Reddit, Stackexchange or other distro forums… The help there might be good or it might not. Ask in these openSUSE forums, the IRC channel or various openSUSE mailing lists
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support
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