That’s your choice. I spoke with the release manager and got the survey extended so that option would be available, because there have been a lot of complaints about the release of Leap 16, and I felt it was important for those who have complaints to send them directly to the people involved. If you feel that creating bug reports is sufficient, that’s certainly your call to make.
Providing direct feedback in any form to the right people is ultimately the most important thing.
Are you suggesting to bombard the release manager with bug reports? Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Thank you for posting this. I was debating on whether to install 16 or not as I just update to 15.6 a few months ago. NVIDIA caused issues for months after trying to do updates that would fail miserably so I was leery of installing new version since 15.6 seems to finally be solid for me.
I’ll wait. Thank you again for posting this and to all others agreeing with the position.
Long time Leap user here (I started in 2003). This thread confirms my suspicions about where Leap is heading. It’s a pitty, in my opinion Leap 15.6 was one of the best releases ever and now it seems 16.0 will be the opposite…
To me it’s clear that SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH doesn’t care about Leap.
I would be happy to pay a $50.00 yearly subscription in order to have a fully supported, professional and stable desktop but it seems they are only interested in companies as clients.
I’ll continue to use 15.6 and in the mean time I’ll evaluate Linux Mint Cinnamon (again) and Debian with KDE.
Oh, in case you want my opinion, it was exactly Yast that made OpenSuse outstanding.
Just to share a different experience (form another long time user), I replaced Leap 15.6 with Leap 16 on a laptop, and the install and post-install setup went really smoothly.
I haven’t needed YaST much in recent years, (especially for hardware configuration), so haven’t missed it as a regular user.
Sometime ago I reached a similar sentiment to yours, but if you think about it, companies are just teams of people as well, they do not exist as separate independent beings in this world, so it is natural that there is more priority in covering the needs of “teams of people” instead of the individual home users (which mostly don’t go past MS windows anyway).
Bear in mind that the linux world is mostly dominant in server space, the fact that we have desktop environments and even gaming support now comes as a lucky subproduct (of companies investing in many cases).
Also, maybe we should not try to focus as much on the fact that everything in this life has an expiration date, but on the hope that when it does expire, we have better options to choose from. As the original creators of a project change, get old and their priorities shift, so does the project itself, which is alive and transforming into whatever the current people invested in it make it be. The forgotten dreams of Richard Stallman from 40 years ago might not be greater anymore than the rush towards a terminator-like future governed by AI that we all seem to be rushing towards to at the moment. Who would have thought and who knows what OS or even device we will be running in 10 years.
Just live life and enjoy the dance of change.
Cheers.
I am new to OpenSUSE and after a glorious week with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on my desktop - I decided to install Leap 16 on my laptop, the only issue from Grub was that the media checking option resulted in a black screen on my Acer machine, with an i7 CPU and XE Graphics - but the actual installation was great and worked flawlessly. Agama looked like a work in progress and you can see that it’s simply just a Firefox tab if you move the mouse to the top but it performed well. After logging in I realised there was no sound and had to install SOF firmware from the terminal but after that - really nice system that feels very smooth and stable. As a new user who installed and didn’t upgrade from leap 15.xx - the experience is great, especially considering some of the pain points I already know / have read about. I hardly use Yast on Tumbleweed and so I don’t care that it’s missing from Leap 16. To a hardened leap veteran who wants to update - it may not seem finished, but to call it an “alpha release” no. I have used software still in Alpha and it wouldn’t result in a beautiful, smooth and performant operating system in my opinion. There’s work to be done for sure but in my case, as a user brand new to OpenSUSE - i’m not scared off in the slightest and very impressed with both systems.
I agree!
I… openSUSE Leap 16.0 release retrospective To the people that count. The survey it self. 2 boxes on what was good/bad.
Marvelous.
Regards
YaST was especially gold when you have not been a regular user.
Me as a gamer moved now from Leap 15.6 (which was the best OS i had ever) to Debian 13 Trixie. All games run fine - but i learned quickly how much i miss YaST or at least something similar.
When i tried to setup Debian for updates, it turned out to be a root activity in system files without GUI. The values to be entered are not well documented and queries resulted even into different results. The main Debian Wiki was an academic elephant missing completely the point.
So - yeah - that’s the kind of stuff where YaST was amazing for non-regular users like gamers. And the OpenSuse Wiki is much better written.
All fingers crossed that the new tools in Leap will become once again so user-friendly and all-encompassing.
Btw: I had no need with Trixie for setting up any SSH on my stand-alone Home PC - so zero SSH on this gamer’s PC.
Anyway - i keep an eye on OpenSuse coz it is close to my heart.
Which YaST modules are you referring to specifically? What admin tasks made you reach for it?
As discussed with you already in other threads these are frequently used features in YaST by me as a gamer:
Other features may be used once in an installations life time like e.g. Partitioning.
All of that was convenient combined and easy to access.
@BierPizzaChips Hi, 1-3 are covered by Myrlyn, 4 and 5 are covered by Cockpit, no Apparmor, SELinux now… Partitioning is also in Cockpit as well as other features, for example Libvirt integration and podman… well snapper, you can inspect from the command line, or most cases select from Grub2/systemd-boot to boot from one…
for 4, firewalld provides a gui for configuring
https://software.opensuse.org/package/firewall-config
Thanks, Malcom. 
Cockpit (Web SSH) makes sense for a Linux Client in a company’s SUSE landscape, but for a single, stand-alone gaming PC, that’s a different story. (Keep in mind that Cockpit is from Red Hat, which has been eaten by IBM.) 
Having digged a bit deeper into Debian with hands on, i now understand that snapper is the true highlight in the OpenSuse architecture and very underrated.
E.g. when i tried a switch to Tubleweed from Leap 15.5, it killed me after installation with an GRUB issue. Here comes the amazing part: Thanks to snapper, i was able to launch from my Installation USB and trigger a rollback to an older snapshot created by snapper - and got my old installation back fully functional. 
Such rollback does not exist on Debian, which makes Debian an ‘install and hands off’ distro. 
How awesome and superior would OpenSuse be with a GUI for Snapper configuration and - as in YaST - the maintenance of snapshots!?! 
(If for corporate SUSE, maybe a part of Cockpit?) 
One can set up snapper on debian.
I don’t know if it’s as battle-tested as OpenSUSE.
@BierPizzaChips Hi, still need either the WEB UI version or my preference the flatpak version since I can manage multiple machines, there was Web YaST, but that faded out of existence…
I don’t even use snapper on my Primary desktop (Tumbleweed) as I’m running ext4 
I’ve used it a few times on my Aeon when sdboot was playing up, aside from that most systems run fine as they are targeting specific tasks/roles around here…
@jsulig: Thanks, mate. That document is very user-friendly written. I like it so much, that i shared it in the Debian forum. Looks like the benefits of Btrfs and snapper is widely unkown and/or ignored across the Linux community (at least in OpenSuse and Debian). The more i appreciate your very good link about that topic.
Just found that SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 16.0 seems still under beta version.
https://www.suse.com/download/sles/
So why the OpenSUSE Leap 16, which is based on SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 16.0, can have the stable release? 
Also I found that there is “USE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP7” released this year. So in principle there should be OpenSUSE Leap 15.7 be in accordance with this?
You may want to read the last chapter…
Toward SUSE Linux 16: The Next Frontier
Wow, from this statement
“While SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 16 has not yet been officially released, insights from openSUSE Leap 16 provide a glimpse of its potential direction of SUSE Linux 16.”
It seems like Leap 16 will be the testbase or upstream of SUSE 16. 