Hallo to all of you guys! I love the linux - way of thinking but i would like to share my thoughts about the distro for this laptop. As the thread states i have an hp probook 4710s running opensuse 12.2. As for hardware compatibility i have to say that everything work fine. I am not the finest programmer but i can install the ati driver without the one click install. The same goes for video and audio codecs. After using for my everyday courses for about 1 year (12.1-12.2), i switch back to Windows 7. The main reason is the Holly(!) high temperature!!! I fed-up having a laptop that i canoot use it without ac for 60 minutes(!). I am using draftsight for autocad drawnings and recently i notice run lagging. I use EVERYTHING to lower my temperature (ACPI , PCIE_ASPM, pm-profiles, etc) and i spoke to anyone for a solution, but it doesn’t go below 70 degrees. So maybe i should say bye-bye to my Ati card. I was keen on with the whole project. I was volunteer for many rpms but as i said i am very disappointed. I think that the main developers should reconsider the aim of the community to give a solution to this. Implementing Jupiter or anything else to reach a temperature of 70-80 degrees will push many users back to windows.
You don’t say how old this laptop is, but before you blame openSUSE Linux for your problem, when was the last time you cleaned out the laptop heat sinks? Dust buildup can be amazing after just six months of use and never cleaning a laptop in a couple of years would be death. Like many Laptops running under Linux, the hardware manufacturers provided little or no help to Linux and so Windows may have a better fan control, but a total lack of cleaning can accelerate the problem to nearly volcanic proportions. Before you say there is no need, buy a can of duster spray, perhaps two cans, and blast out every vent hole you can find. Always pull the power plug and pull the battery before you start. If you feel really rambunctious, you might even look up how to raise up the keyboard long enough to blast out any dust from there and then see how your laptop runs cooler.
Thank You,
Thank you for your interest,
I am very cautious with my laptop so i take care of it almost every day! I clean every week! From inside to outside! For the god shake it is only 3 year old. I couldn’t find a reason for this mulfunction except from malprogramming of kernel. It doesn’t have to do with manufacturers. I am sure that the reason is problematik programming. I such case cleaning or everything that have to do with similar aufgabe like this is, will lead to failure. I have spoken to many who seem to know the kernel stuff and i came to the truth. Guys, come it is a problematic operating system. That’s all. Kernel edition of 2.6.27 and higher all of them, without an exception, have this issue. So i would like to help. If everyone identifies the problem and don’t blame dust or everything else, opensuse will be a good alternative. So i want to fix this issue. That’s all!
On 02/06/2013 05:56 PM, Karris88 wrote:
> but it doesn’t go below 70 degrees. . . . to reach a temperature of 70-80
> degrees will push many users back to windows.
first: use what works, always…
second: why do you set your mind to 70-80 as the max temp for your
machine? what does the CPU maker or HP themselves set as the max?
as far as i know all of those various Intel chips are set to shutdown
about 95 degrees, and anything below that is ok…because there is
no damage if shut down at 95…
saying you might have to go back to windows because your machine runs
at 70 to 80 percent of max allowable temperature is kinda like saying
that you are gonna have to get rid of your new Corvette and go back
to an old Studebaker because the Vette has too much speed capability
that you don’t want to use (which is ok as it will probably use more
fuel–and, more heat means you are using more battery!)…
all that said, have you installed and tuned powertop? see
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Saving-Energy-with-PowerTOP2.0
(there is a newer version in the openSUSE repos)
and, a three year old laptop might easily be cooled with a new thin
layer of thermal grease (which will dry out and do less transfer with
time)
finally: did you find no help in any of these others who were here
before you with hot laptop?
https://www.google.com/search?q=HP+Probook+heat+site%3Aforums.opensuse.org
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dd
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
I only say that one should not dismiss the ability for dust to buildup inside the laptop heat sinks, no matter how pristine you keep its external facade in a short period of time as six months. I can say that several dozen users here have went on to blow out the heat sinks and were amazed of the dust buildup and the effect on the Laptop’s ability to work coolly. So, only you know if internal cleaning includes blasting heats sinks with compressed air. The original need to do this happened to me one morning at work many moons ago when my laptop shut down on startup due to over heating. While I clean it externally, I had not taken any effort to blow it out. Once done, the blast of dust just could not be believed and so its OK to be incredulous of any such dust buildup on an otherwise clean looking laptop and good luck with this cooling issue.
Thank You,
On 2013-02-06 17:56, Karris88 wrote:
>
> Hallo to all of you guys! I love the linux - way of thinking but i would
> like to share my thoughts about the distro for this laptop. As the
> thread states i have an hp probook 4710s running opensuse 12.2. As for
> hardware compatibility i have to say that everything work fine. I am not
> the finest programmer but i can install the ati driver without the one
> click install. The same goes for video and audio codecs. After using for
> my everyday courses for about 1 year (12.1-12.2), i switch back to
> Windows 7. The main reason is the Holly(!) high temperature!!! I fed-up
> having a laptop that i canoot use it without ac for 60 minutes(!). I am
> using draftsight for autocad drawnings and recently i notice run
> lagging. I use EVERYTHING to lower my temperature (ACPI , PCIE_ASPM,
> pm-profiles, etc) and i spoke to anyone for a solution, but it doesn’t
> go below 70 degrees. So maybe i should say bye-bye to my Ati card. I was
> keen on with the whole project. I was volunteer for many rpms but as i
> said i am very disappointed. I think that the main developers should
> reconsider the aim of the community to give a solution to this.
> Implementing Jupiter or anything else to reach a temperature of 70-80
> degrees will push many users back to windows.
It is possible that ATI makes better graphic drivers for Windows than
for Linux, assuming you are using the proprietary drivers. It is
possible that Linux draws more battery power.
It is also a fact that the open source video drivers are often behind
the proprietary drivers is several respects (like heat control). And
there is very little the Linux developers can do about that. Don’t blame
them, blame ATI for not releasing the specifications to their hardware.
It is also possible that, lacking features in the graphical driver, the
CPU has to do a lot of work that would run in the graphical hardware,
instead, as CPU cycles that release more heat wasting battery power.
Me, I use Intel video for those reasons. Slower, worse, but sufficient
and more energy efficient.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)