susix
I like that the most. My 1st thought was susex (which would be the most logical name), but ok I know, bad idea…
esus
suse backwards written
esux
same, but cooler
sulix
quite good but already existing
susix
I like that the most. My 1st thought was susex (which would be the most logical name), but ok I know, bad idea…
esus
suse backwards written
esux
same, but cooler
sulix
quite good but already existing
What’s wrong with SUSE for Enterprise and openSUSE for everything else?
Start here: Rebranding of the Project - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists
That’s where the whole discussion started, and explains what the situation is.
Mispronouncing is common. I would be happy to call it the mispronounced, Anglicized, Susie’s Linux; or Susie’s Tumbleweed. Susie’s Leap seems a bit risky! Susie’s Open is out of the question.
I disagree with avoiding personal names, like Liza, because the personal names make it personal to the users and, hopefully, adopters. It engenders a familiarity that brings loyalty. Figuring out anagrams or acronyms is the opposite and of only passing interest. Too bad the only famous lizard is an insurance company logo.
I understand that part, but SUSE / openSUSE was created for this exact reason. Now, it’s not good enough. As far as I am concerned, openSUSE Tumbleweed could just become Tumbleweed. If we are being thrown away, we don’t need a brand name.
The issue is that openSUSE is a project name, and Tumbleweed (Leap, Open Build Service, OpenQA, and many others) are “product” names (distros, services, etc).
The project name is integral to the identity of the project as a whole.
The discussion isn’t about “product” names, it’s about the project as a whole.
We’re not being “thrown away”. SUSE is and will continue to be a part of the openSUSE Project far into the future, from everything I’ve seen. But SUSE rightfully (in my view) wants to distinguish the commercial offerings using the SUSE brand from the community project. Similar to the way that Redhat/Fedora exist, or Canonical/Ubuntu exist.
It’s not an unreasonable request, and it’s not any sort of repudiation of the openSUSE project or its members.
It’s a step in the maturation of the project.
I like lunarix
and salamandra
. sutex
also sounds pretty cool!
This whole thing feels like my left and right hands are fighting eachother. Maybe they want openSUSE to use a different type of lizard, like Red Hat used a different type of hat, but the whole branding thing seems completely unnecessary and unproductive.
Wilson is right; I was using SUSE in the 00s when the change to openSUSE changed for exactly this reason. The openSUSE community exists and Tumbleweed and Leap exist and are allowed to exist because the snapshots and testing are vital for the continued profitability of SLE as a corporate product, and yet they consider the community to be freeloading on their branding? The confusion argument doesn’t even make sense: no enterprise customer is spending that much money on free software; they’re paying SUSE for the support and setup across some pretty big and complex footprints which a free Leap download does not come with. The whole thing is a nonsense. It sounds like they’re repeating Red Hat’s mistake when they went to war with CentOS in completely forgetting why anyone pays for RHEL at all, only this is more like Red Hat getting annoyed with Fedora.
Looking at the list of names, I think we should combine the first one with what we already have and call the project OpenTits.
“Open Susie” always gets a giggle out of me.
No, but in my opinion (not a SUSE position), brand dilution is a real thing in the marketplace.
When customers are confused about your products vs. other products in the market, there’s a problem.
As someone who’s not in the community every day (on multiple platforms), maybe you don’t see the number of times think asking in the openSUSE community about licensed, paid-for enterprise products is the right place vs. asking through their support contract or in forums that cater specifically to those on a subscription plan with SUSE, but it’s something I see all the time. Not just here, but also on Facebook, also in real-time chat venues like matrix and telegram.
It happens pretty regularly. I know, I spend time helping and redirecting people to the proper place for their paid-for support.
Similarly, when I used to hang around the SUSE forums (and I’m sure it’s happened in the Rancher forums since that migration happened), the number of questions about the community releases that show up there also was certainly greater than “zero”.
They appear to want a clear line between the open project (that they happily have sponsored and will continue to sponsor, from everything I’ve said) and the commercial, paid-for products.
Just like RedHat did when the Fedora project started. That didn’t mean RedHat stopped supporting the Fedora project.
As I said before, this is a maturation of the project. Nothing more than that.
You’ll remember that we also changed version number schemes a couple of times along the way - to 42.x and then back to 15.x. In some ways, this is a similar exercise.
So my proposal, keep it simple as in history:
S.u.S.E. for Software- und System-Entwicklung
now
oSDS for open Software Development and Service
How about simply: oS
Wouldn’t ppl think of oS as OS as in Operating System? Wouldn’t that make it more confusing?
Fedora is a type of hat. Could the new name for OpenSUSE be a type of chameleon. Latin and indigenous names could be considered.
Tiger, Panther, and Namaqua are some I’ve read of with short/punchy english names.
It would be nice to find some indigenous names. Indigenous names do not appear to be widely published/searchable and I read they vary regionally. Anyone here speak Swahili, Zulu, or Malagasy?
OpenSousa and have a musical themed logo.
The logo would be a tuba.
Don’t know. The oS Project?
Couldn’t people read that as “The Open Source Project” instead?
I would keep the open part of the name, as only the SUSE part is causing confusion.
In German Suse is a short form for Susanne.
So my first suggestion could be:
openSusanne
Also the name stands for the flower lily, so second suggestion:
openLily
In addition the name originally seems to come from old Greek: Sousánnā
openSousánnā
And that name appears to come from old Hebrew: Shoshannah
openShoshannah ?
And that name comes somehow from the old Egyptian word: sšn
openSsn
sšn Also stands for Lotus, next to Lily, so at last, how about:
openLotus
It would at least be great fun to explain where the new name comes
The only conflict would probably be with Yoga centres.
oS Project
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Very difficult to search for. The eelo project for a degoogled Android had changed to just e for quite a while after a conflict (now murena). Absolute nightmare to search for anything.
So I would suggest names that are quite distinct to help with search.
I think it would be great to maintain a kind of reference to the current name, just to keep in mind from where it comes… Suseanne, Susana, Sousanne, Open Suseanne, sound great to me.