Hi all.
I tried to decipher the info on the opensuse site about networked scanners but it’s not clear to me and I don’t see anything in the forum here that addresses the question, so here goes.
My PC is an opensuse 11.3 box.
My Epson CX9400 is attached to a Windows 7 PC at the other end of the house.
The PC’s can talk and can access shared files nicely.
It will print perfectly from the Windows box or the Linux box.
It will scan perfectly from the Windows box.
BUT I cannot scan documents from the Linux box.
Have installed XSane and Image! Scan for Linux and neither one seem to find the scanner.
I tried adding it manually in YaST and it doesn’t seem to find it either.
Should this be possible?
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:06:02 +0000, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
> Have installed XSane and Image! Scan for Linux and neither one seem to
> find the scanner.
> I tried adding it manually in YaST and it doesn’t seem to find it
> either.
>
> Should this be possible?
What have you installed on the Windows workstation to make the scanner
available on the network?
Jim
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:21:49 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:06:02 +0000, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
>
>> Should this be possible?
>
> What have you installed on the Windows workstation to make the scanner
> available on the network?
This might be helpful:
http://ljm.home.xs4all.nl/SANE-faq.html#20
(Bottom line is you need to install SANE on the Windows system)
Jim
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On 07/11/2011 04:06 AM, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
>
> Should this be possible?
probably, but why?
i mean, if you have to walk to the other side of the house to place a
document in the scanner (attached to the win7 machine), why not just use
the win7 machine to do the scan, while you are there next to the
scanner and the win7 box? and, then walk back to your Linux and access
the created image on the game machine’s hard drive across the net?
or, do you have someone sitting at the win7 machine who will change
pages in the scanner while you click “Scan” from the linux box? if so,
why not just ask them to change the page AND click the “Scan” button on
the win7 box??
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:35:58 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> On 07/11/2011 04:06 AM, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
>>
>> Should this be possible?
>
> probably, but why?
>
> i mean, if you have to walk to the other side of the house to place a
> document in the scanner (attached to the win7 machine), why not just use
> the win7 machine to do the scan, while you are there next to the
> scanner and the win7 box? and, then walk back to your Linux and access
> the created image on the game machine’s hard drive across the net?
>
> or, do you have someone sitting at the win7 machine who will change
> pages in the scanner while you click “Scan” from the linux box? if so,
> why not just ask them to change the page AND click the “Scan” button on
> the win7 box??
I do network scanning here at home - it’s not entirely unreasonable to
want to share a peripheral between devices. 
Jim
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:31:59 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:21:49 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:06:02 +0000, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
>>
>>> Should this be possible?
>>
>> What have you installed on the Windows workstation to make the scanner
>> available on the network?
>
> This might be helpful:
>
> http://ljm.home.xs4all.nl/SANE-faq.html#20
>
> (Bottom line is you need to install SANE on the Windows system)
Having dug a little further into this, SomeSuSEUser, it looks like while
the backends might work on Windows, it’s not really pre-packaged. Some
have reported getting it to compile with Cygwin or MINGW, but in general,
the issue seems to be that TWAIN and SANE are not particularly compatible.
You can use the SANE frontends (XSANE in particular) on Windows, but that
gives you connectivity to a *nix connected scanner. Your best solution
probably is to connect the scanner to your Linux box and share it that
way.
If you want to play with compiling the backends to run on Windows, you’ll
probably do better to ask questions in the SANE mailing lists over at
sane-project.org.
Jim
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On 07/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> I do network scanning here at home - it’s not entirely unreasonable to
> want to share a peripheral between devices.
multi-page printing to a remote printer i understand, but scanning from
a far away piece of equipment needing to be fed, i don’t see the
reason…unless two folks are involved in the operation…wait, even
then it would be more logical to just use one person, at the scanner’s
location…
otoh, i understand the need some (geeky) folks have to
see-if-it-can-be-done…
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DD
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:43:30 +0000, DenverD wrote:
> On 07/11/2011 10:12 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> I do network scanning here at home - it’s not entirely unreasonable to
>> want to share a peripheral between devices.
>
> multi-page printing to a remote printer i understand, but scanning from
> a far away piece of equipment needing to be fed, i don’t see the
> reason…unless two folks are involved in the operation…wait, even
> then it would be more logical to just use one person, at the scanner’s
> location…
Maybe for your use case, Denver - not for mine. Occasionally my wife
needs to scan something on her laptop. She comes over, puts the item in
the scanner, and then scans it so she has it on her laptop.
Simple use case.
> otoh, i understand the need some (geeky) folks have to
> see-if-it-can-be-done…
Not at all - obviously the need is there, as the SANE project has
specifically developed a net driver for scanners. Some scanners also
have autoloaders for multipage documents (my Epson scanner has that
available as an option).
Like I said, not entirely unreasonable at all. So let’s stop arguing
about whether or not it’s a useful thing to do - if you can contribute
something to help the OP, then by all means, do.
But just because you can’t find a use for it in your setup doesn’t mean
it’s not a valid or even reasonable thing to want to do.
Jim
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Thanks both for the ideas.
For DenverD, the wife wants the scanner in her office for “personal” reasons. Let’s just say she’s just an odd bird and only uses “technology” grudgingly. She’d have a horse and buggy instead of a car if she had her way. So to keep as peaceful as possible here, I acquiesce to her desires.
For my part, I’m just as weird. I just don’t like using Windows. My desire is to drop off a multiple page doc into the doc feeder on the scanner and go back to my office, scan, and handle all from Popeye.
Jim I appreciate you’re findings and will experiment I guess to see just what is possible.
The Windows box has a standard Epson driver set to run the scanner/printer functions and works OK.
I will follow the link provided and do some followup experimentation in the next few weeks.
I will come back to this and post any followup, but things have turned here and I cannot have time to do much in terms of experimentation in the short term. But I do intend to see if I can’t make this work and will reply back here, hopefully with <SOLVED> in the title bar…
Much appreciation of the help I always get in these forums.
Swerdna, PJ, DenverD, and of course Jim should have lots of good Karma due to your helpful natures and I thank you!
You have all helped me do things with my little network over here that I would never have been able to accomplish on my own.
On 07/15/2011 05:36 PM, SomeSuSEUser wrote:
>
> For DenverD, the wife wants the scanner in her office for “personal”
> reasons. Let’s just say she’s just an odd bird and only uses
> “technology” grudgingly. She’d have a horse and buggy instead of a car
> if she had her way. So to keep as peaceful as possible here, I
> acquiesce to her desires.
> For my part, I’m just as weird. I just don’t like using Windows. My
> desire is to drop off a multiple page doc into the doc feeder on the
> scanner and go back to my office, scan, and handle all from Popeye.
oh! see how smart i am! i’ve never seen a scanner with a auto-feeder
(sheltered life, i guess)…and, of course i can understand not wanting
to use Windows!! and absolutely understand wanting to keep the lady
happy…so, all’s well that ends well (that is a hope you get it figured
out!!)
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