****Hello.
Although I read the forum, I did not understand the differences between yast2 and zypper.
Here is my repository after a fresh reinstall ( I had to downgrade from 12.1 to 11.4 ) and my personnal config of the repos.
zypper repos -pP
# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority
--+----------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+---------+---------+---------
1 | Mises-à-jour-pour-openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | Mises à jour pour openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | Yes | Yes | 70
6 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss | Yes | No | 80
7 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.4-Oss | Yes | No | 80
3 | packman_jacobs_university | packman_jacobs_university | Yes | Yes | 90
4 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.4-Debug | No | No | 100
5 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug | No | No | 100
8 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.4-Source | No | No | 100
2 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | No | No | 200
linux-xxxx:~ # zypper update
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
**The following package updates will NOT be installed:**
gstreamer-0_10 gstreamer-0_10-plugin-gnomevfs gstreamer-0_10-plugin-hal gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good
gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good-lang k3b libgstapp-0_10-0 libgstinterfaces-0_10-0 libgstreamer-0_10-0 libgstreamer-0_10-0-32bit
libwavpack1 libxine1 libxine1-gnome-vfs libxine1-pulse linphone mjpegtools python-numpy taglib
**The following packages are going to be upgraded:**
alsa-tools libapr-util1 libapr-util1-devel libapr1 libapr1-devel mozilla-js20 mozilla-xulrunner20 mozilla-xulrunner20-gnome
mozilla-xulrunner20-translations-common openSUSE-release pam-modules pwdutils
**The following product is going to be reinstalled:**
**openSUSE 11.4 **
12 packages to upgrade.
Overall download size: 11.6 MiB. After the operation, 317.0 KiB will be freed.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y): y
Do you agree with the terms of the license? [yes/no] (no): ^C
linux-xxxx:~ #
**Using zypper why : **
1°)
The following package updates will NOT be installed …
2°)
The following packages are going to be upgraded …
3°)
The following product is going to be reinstalled: openSUSE 11.4
YaST Online Update is the same as zypper patch, NOT zypper up!
And it does only update from the Update repo. That are official Security and Recommended updates (or patches in zypper’s terminology) for the software of the OSS and nonOSS repos…
Installing newer versions from other repos then the official OSS and nonOSS you can install with zypper up or in YaST by right click in a list in the right panel and choosing: All in this list > Install when a newer version is available.
Given the configuration of the priorities ( see upper ), what does the messages mean :
Using zypper :
1°)
The following package updates will NOT be installed …
2°)
The following packages are going to be upgraded …
3°)
The following product is going to be reinstalled: openSUSE 11.4
and using yast2/online update why :
Nothing to do
First of all, I want to know why zypper is in intention to reinstall the system.
Some initial package ( from opensuse ) should be update or replaced by packman package.
So how priority should be set?
Packman should have a higher priority than suse update or not?]()
On 2011-12-19 22:06, jcdole wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> FIRST.
> This was not my question.
>
> Given the configuration of the priorities ( see upper ), what does the
> messages mean :
>
> Using zypper :
> 1°)
> The following package updates will NOT be installed …
Probably because the update would involve a vendor change. Or because they
come from a lower priority repo.
> 2°)
> The following packages are going to be upgraded …
Same as above, on the other direction.
> 3°)
> The following product is going to be reinstalled: openSUSE 11.4
Dunno, and never cared. Ask the devs.
> and using yast2/online update why :
> Nothing to do
Because yast online update (YOU) does the equivalent to “zypper patch”, as
Henk told you.
> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO KNOW WHY ZYPPER IS IN INTENTION TO REINSTALL
> THE SYSTEM.
It is not.
And please don’t shout to us.
> So how priority should be set?
> Packman should have a higher priority than suse update or not?
Depends on who you ask. If you ask me, lower priority (higher number).
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 12/19/2011 10:06 PM, jcdole wrote:
>
> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO KNOW WHY ZYPPER IS IN INTENTION TO REINSTALL
> THE SYSTEM.
it said:
The following product is going to be reinstalled:
openSUSE 11.4
12 packages to upgrade.
Overall download size: 11.6 MiB.
there is no possible way it is going to ‘reinstall’ openSUSE 11.4 with
only 12 packages and less than 12 MBs…think about it! my guess is it
found 12 packages that appear to be corrupted or misplaced or whatever,
and is gonna correct that for you…
> Some initial package ( from opensuse ) should be update or replaced by
> packman package.
> So how priority should be set?
> Packman should have a higher priority than suse update or not?
the nature of stuff which flows though update (security patches & major
bug fixes)is so different from the stuff in packman (codecs and non-open
software…this is openSUSE) that it is unlikely the two repos will
have competing software…so it really makes no difference which is a
higher priority as both will service the system…
but, you may find other opinions on that…(personally, i’ve been using
SUSE/openSUSE since 9.x and have always run with update and packman with
the same priority and never felt an adverse effect of doing so.)
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:50:09 +0530, DenverD
<DenverD@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> On 12/19/2011 10:06 PM, jcdole wrote:
>>
>> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO KNOW WHY ZYPPER IS IN INTENTION TO REINSTALL
>> THE SYSTEM.
>
> it said:
>
> The following product is going to be reinstalled:
> openSUSE 11.4
>
> 12 packages to upgrade.
>
> Overall download size: 11.6 MiB.
>
>
> there is no possible way it is going to ‘reinstall’ openSUSE 11.4 with
> only 12 packages and less than 12 MBs…think about it! my guess is it
> found 12 packages that appear to be corrupted or misplaced or whatever,
> and is gonna correct that for you…
>
>
>> Some initial package ( from opensuse ) should be update or replaced by
>> packman package.
>> So how priority should be set?
>> Packman should have a higher priority than suse update or not?
>
> the nature of stuff which flows though update (security patches & major
> bug fixes)is so different from the stuff in packman (codecs and non-open
> software…this is openSUSE) that it is unlikely the two repos will
> have competing software…so it really makes no difference which is a
> higher priority as both will service the system…
>
> but, you may find other opinions on that…(personally, i’ve been using
> SUSE/openSUSE since 9.x and have always run with update and packman with
> the same priority and never felt an adverse effect of doing so.)
>
> my repo setup today: http://paste.opensuse.org/47995989
>
when adding the packman repos, you have to consciously switch some
packages from openSUSE repos to packman, and add others. the system
(zypper, yast) will not change these packages back to another repo without
you actually telling it to do so (zypper dup, yast “switch packages to
this repo”).
On 12/20/2011 12:36 PM, jcdole wrote:
> Thank you very much.
all of us say you are welcome…we are all volunteers and all hoping
you Have a lot of fun.
(by the way: ALL CAPITALS IS CONSIDERED SHOUTING…which is why Carlos
said something…about shouting…except, you know you didn’t use all
capitals…instead you used the forum software to make the print bold,
which (unfortunately) comes through to Carlos, phani and me (and all
users coming here via nntp) as all capitals…)
On 2011-12-20 12:26, jcdole wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2420239 Wrote:
>> On 2011-12-19 22:06, jcdole wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO KNOW WHY ZYPPER IS IN INTENTION TO REINSTALL
>>> THE SYSTEM.
>>
>> It is not.
>> And please don’t shout to us.
>>
>
> I am not shouting after anybody.
Yes, you are. UPPPERCASE is shouting in internet.
> I was re-asking my questions because I didn’t understood something and
> didn’t get any explanation :
Yes, we did explain. Read again the answers.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
> (by the way: ALL CAPITALS IS CONSIDERED SHOUTING…which is why Carlos
> said something…about shouting…except, you know you didn’t use all
> capitals…instead you used the forum software to make the print bold,
> which (unfortunately) comes through to Carlos, phani and me (and all users
> coming here via nntp) as all capitals…)
Yeeech! The gateway again. It should use asterisks for bold, that is the
standard.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Yes, that line was on bold. But the post started with
FIRST.
This was not my question.
which was reason enough for me to stop answering.
And the rest of that post is a nightmare of different colours and more. You should pull yourself together and dare to take a look at it from a web browser. I hope you do not get a headache.
