Today Fri Oct 19 2012 for first time in a while I didn’t get that page not found error
on login… Great!
However, Now when I select the logout link in the top right corner of the
page, I get a somewhat persistent JavaScript confirmation pop-up which
doesn’t respond to the keyboard. And which takes 3 or 4 “yes” clicks to
go away so the logout process can actually run… ???
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JtWdyP
On 10/19/2012 07:29 AM, JtWdyP wrote:
> I get a somewhat persistent JavaScript confirmation pop-up which
> doesn’t respond to the keyboard. And which takes 3 or 4 “yes” clicks to
> go away so the logout process can actually run
i don’t suspect it is a forum software problem because i can not
duplicate (with any of keyboard, mouse or touch pad input) using
hardware and Chrome, KDE and openSUSE as described in sig…
confirmation pop-up responds immediately upon first application of
click, key stroke or tap…
on the other hand, maybe the OP is using a different mix of browser,
graphics driver, operating system, kernel version, .bashrc, etc, etc,
etc, which is not being treated nicely by vBulletin ??
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dd
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It would appear that on Oct 19, dd did say:
> On 10/19/2012 07:29 AM, JtWdyP wrote:
> > I get a somewhat persistent JavaScript confirmation pop-up which
> > doesn’t respond to the keyboard. And which takes 3 or 4 “yes” clicks to
> > go away so the logout process can actually run
>
> i don’t suspect it is a forum software problem because i can not duplicate
> (with any of keyboard, mouse or touch pad input) using hardware and Chrome,
> KDE and openSUSE as described in sig…
>
> confirmation pop-up responds immediately upon first application of click, key
> stroke or tap…
>
> on the other hand, maybe the OP is using a different mix of browser, graphics
> driver, operating system, kernel version, .bashrc, etc, etc, etc, which is not
> being treated nicely by vBulletin ??
Well something changed… Last week the same browser on the same machine(s)
while running the same distro(s) & using the same desktop environment with
the same config files didn’t have this problem…
Still I may have exaggerated slightly, {I was tired when I posted and may
have missed the actual button with one or more clicks…} In any case
today, Now that I’m fresh enough to click in the right spot when I give
that task a negative nice priority so large as to interrupts my breathing…
OK OK slight exaggeration, But I do have trouble with mouse pointer
accuracy, especially when I’m tired. Which is why I noticed not being able
to use the keyboard.
Anyway today I’m only having to click {on the button} twice.
I’m using E17, if it matters. Last night I had the difficulty while running
OpenSuSE 12.2 on my laptop. This morning I just duplicated the problem with
my desktop PC running E17 in antiX Linux…
The problem does appear to be browser specific however.
My preferred Browser for anything like a forum which I might want to keep
open even while I’m busy doing something else is opera. So of course it’s
with Opera that I’m seeing this. Opera 12.2 currently on antiX, and I think
that’s what’s running on the up to date OpenSuSE 12.2 on my laptop.
But when I just tested this with the Firefox clone “IceWeasel 10.0.9”
from the antiX on my Desktop pc, the pop-up worked just like it was
supposed to…
I suppose I could start accessing the forum with firefox, but I use firefox
for any number of things that my personal paranoia settings require browser
shutdown on close (such as accessing my bank account) That I’d rather not
use it for persistent {stay logged in for hours} forum access.
The third probably viable choice “Chrom” is what I use exclusively for
Facebook ever since I found out how good their sneaky cookies are at
sharing my info with third parties. So I use Chrom for facebook and nothing
else…
Still unless I’m mistaken, the only thing that the logout process does is
to clear my SuSE/OpenSuSE/Novell cookies, right. So All I really need to do
is close my OpenSuSE session by way of using ^w to close the tab{s}.
And since I routinely purge my opera cookie file on a daily basis, that
should be that. Or is there something else that I need to let the official
logout method do for me???
On 10/19/2012 05:13 PM, JtWdyP wrote:
> the only thing that the logout process does is
> to clear my SuSE/OpenSuSE/Novell cookies, right.
i doubt that…i believe the suse/opensuse/novell servers “know” if you
are logged in, or not…not simply because your cookie says you are…
but, what do i know??
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dd
I solve that problem by using a different firefox profile for banking. Something like
MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 firefox -P banking-profile-name
(I do that in a script) starts the alternative firefox profile, without interfering with my normal browsing use of firefox.
Yes, that’s correct. In fact, the forum uses session cookies, so even without purging the cookie file, that method would work.
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:13:20 +0000, dd wrote:
> i doubt that…i believe the suse/opensuse/novell servers “know” if you
> are logged in, or not…not simply because your cookie says you are…
No, the cookies are how the browser deals with it. Clear the cookies,
and the session gets cleared out.
With the infrastructure changes taking place, I’ve had occasion to need
to manually clear cookies myself a few times while doing testing.
Things are hopefully getting switched over on Tuesday that should help a
lot with this.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
On 10/19/2012 09:25 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> No, the cookies are how the browser deals with it. Clear the cookies,
> and the session gets cleared out.
ok i wanna hack a cookie and stay logged in forever…
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dd
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:37:20 +0000, dd wrote:
> On 10/19/2012 09:25 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> No, the cookies are how the browser deals with it. Clear the cookies,
>> and the session gets cleared out.
>
> ok i wanna hack a cookie and stay logged in forever…
The cookie isn’t the only piece that controls it, as I think you know,
there is a database table that tracks the validity of the session, and if
the cookie doesn’t match something in the database, then the cookie is
invalidated.
I misunderstood what you were saying two messages back.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
It would appear that on Oct 19, dd did say:
> On 10/19/2012 05:13 PM, JtWdyP wrote:
> > the only thing that the logout process does is
> > to clear my SuSE/OpenSuSE/Novell cookies, right.
>
> i doubt that…i believe the suse/opensuse/novell servers “know” if you are
> logged in, or not…not simply because your cookie says you are…
You could be right. They may well use some internal means to track the
validity of the cookie, or some such thing.
But a little empirical testing suggests that it might not matter much…
Both Opera & Firefox are set {on my machines} to at least expire all new
cookies on browser close.
With both browsers I can login to the forum and then hit ^W until the only
remaining tab or window is the one open to:
file://localhost/home/jtwdyp/com/LocalHomePageStuff/myhome.htm
Then use a bookmark to return to the forum and see it still knows my name. And
with both browsers, if I actually close and restart the browser, I find I’m no
longer logged in when I return to the forum.
Being logged in to the forum with one browser doesn’t interfere with logging
in again with the other. And using the forum logout process with one of them
doesn’t affect the viability of the others cookie.
> but, what do i know??
Plenty! But nobody, not even Linus Torvalds knows it all. Though he has likely
forgotten more than the two of us together will ever know…
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