KINO: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394!

Linuxinlennox · August 2, 2010, 2:55pm

Yes, I did all this, and there was no change.

Naviagate to YaST > System > /etc/sysconfig Editor

You will see a panel with ‘+Applications…+ Other…+ System’. Click on the ‘+’ beside 'System ’ to expand the entries contained within this section.

Scroll down to ‘+Kernel’. Expand and click on ‘MODULES_LOADED_AT_BOOT’. Here you can add ‘raw1394’

When finished, click on ‘OK’.

Since then I have tried several things to get it going- working on possible errors.

You mentioned that the the ‘raw1394’ module does not get loaded at boot, or when a firewire device is connected, so I tried to disconnect the camera and try setting the module for automation again and reboot the system.

I tried entering the ‘raw1394’ with and without inverted commas raw1394

I tried kicking it over again manually with the modprobe command.

Sorry my replies are becoming confusing to you. I am trying hard to be as clear as possible as to what I am doing.

DenverD · August 2, 2010, 3:39pm

Linuxinlennox wrote:
> Sorry my replies are becoming confusing to you. I am trying hard to be
> as clear as possible as to what I am doing.

i strongly suggest you stop doing anything you are not told to do
(that is, stop “trying” things like disconnecting the camera,
rebooting and a “whole combination of different things” etc etc etc)…

you are not very likely to “get lucky” and just accidentally put
things together the right way…you are far more likely to keep
changing the situation at your end enough that Ken won’t be able to
help you…

Ken, do you agree?

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DenverD
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deano_ferrari · August 3, 2010, 12:30am

you are not very likely to “get lucky” and just accidentally put
things together the right way…you are far more likely to keep
changing the situation at your end enough that Ken won’t be able to
help you…

Ken, do you agree?

Right now, I wish Ken was here helping too lol!

Cheers,

Dean

I tried entering the ‘raw1394’ with and without inverted commas raw1394

Without quotes is correct. Once you have done the /etc/sysconfig config, can you reboot, and let me know if the module is loaded with

lsmod |grep raw194

If we can at least establish that, we may have some other issue to deal with.

If the firewire module is loaded, but your camera is not handled correctly, we’d better take a look at

dmesg |tail

when camera has just been plugged in and turned on of course.

brucecadieux · August 3, 2010, 12:36am

Right click the link below and save the file.

http://itsyourpc.org/bruce/files/z95_firewire.rules

Once you have it saved.

Open a console.

cd to the directory where you saved the file.

su

cp z95_firewire.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/z95_firewire.rules

reboot your computer and your firewire cam will work for all users in kino, and other applications such a kdenlive

Linuxinlennox · August 3, 2010, 12:59am

Dean, no output on that

dave@linux-2z2n:~> lsmod |grep raw194
dave@linux-2z2n:~>

with the lower code and the camera connected we got

dave@linux-2z2n:~> dmesg |tail
   22.837257]   domain 1: span 0-1 level NODE
   22.837261]    groups: 0-1
   23.120008] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
   37.796584] BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 2 devices found
   39.412512] bootsplash: status on console 0 changed to on
   47.622687] process `skype' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT
   99.645032] SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=6c:f0:49:47:af:d7:00:25:3c:3e:0f:f9:08:00 SRC=60.230.7.109 DST=10.0.0.4 LEN=47 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=115 ID=2301 PROTO=UDP SPT=26282 DPT=27191 LEN=27
 1846.021761] npviewer.bin[3512]: segfault at 0 ip b61ae041 sp bf99c6f0 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[b5e0f000+b04000]
 1867.477279] npviewer.bin[8366]: segfault at 418 ip b614ca56 sp bfc58458 error 6 in libflashplayer.so[b5efe000+b04000]
 1887.256107] npviewer.bin[8399]: segfault at 418 ip b613aa56 sp bfd4e128 error 6 in libflashplayer.so[b5eec000+b04000]
dave@linux-2z2n:~&gt;

brucecadieux · August 3, 2010, 1:01am

Try the file I gave a link to and copy where I said to then reboot.

I have been using that file on three computers to avoid the errors kino outputs and to get full functions.

It works .

Linuxinlennox · August 3, 2010, 1:09am

Will do Bruce. Thanks very much.
I saved the file (in my Home> Downloads folder),
opened the console,
*cd to the directory where you saved the file * (I dont understand this step?) Could you give me some directions on that please?

brucecadieux · August 3, 2010, 1:14am

Open the console. Type the following command.

cd Download

Then type

su followed by your root password.

Then type

cp z95_firewire.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/z95_firewire.rules

Now reboot your computer.

Plug in your camera.

Open Kino, you will have access to the camera.

Linuxinlennox · August 3, 2010, 2:01am

Sorry Bruce, Thanks but that didn’t seem to change anything either!

brucecadieux · August 3, 2010, 2:07am

Have you looked to see if the file was copied into the directory?

Also do have the needed 1394 libraries installed?

Go into yast, software management and search for 1394

Here is what I have installed

dvgrab
libavc1394
libavc1394-0
libavc1394-devel
libdc1394
libdc1394-22
libdc1394-devel
libdc1394_control12
libdc1394_control12-devel
libraw1394
libraw1394-8
libraw1394-devel

Linuxinlennox · August 3, 2010, 2:45am

Thank you Bruce, yes i checked to see that the file was in the directory (etc/udev/rules.d/z95_firewire.rules) It was.
I went into software manager and I checked the 1394 libraries. I didn’t have all those installed. I checked the missing ones and installled. I had a few installed from the beginning that were not on your list.
Reboot.
No cigar.
Dam!

brucecadieux · August 3, 2010, 2:48am

What kind of camera is this?

Linuxinlennox · August 3, 2010, 3:04am

Sony DCR-TRV22 Digital handycam
Sony DCR-TRV22 Digital Camcorder reviews - CNET Reviews
It is a little old these days. I have had it working with Kino before on another computer using Suse 11.2

deano_ferrari · August 3, 2010, 3:30am

Well I’m not sure what the problems is. The udev line I gave you (will work just the same as the one Bruce linked to), and the ‘MODULES_LOADED_AT_BOOT’ entry work for me. However, I can’t test any further without the hardware. Maybe (speculation) your camera needs support via another kernel module. This Ubuntu thread hints at this:

Getting video INTO Ubuntu (Kino) - SOLVED [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums

with the mention of these drivers

modprobe dv1394
modprobe video1394
modprobe raw1394
modprobe ohci1394

Anyone familiar with the Sony model (or similar) mentioned by OP?

Linuxinlennox · August 3, 2010, 7:14am

The camera seems to recognize when it is hooked up to the computer.Just not the other way around.
I tried tapping those commands into terminal.
modprobe dv1394
modprobe video1394
modprobe raw1394
modprobe ohci1394

No change.
How do I activate those modules that may support the camera?

deano_ferrari · August 3, 2010, 7:21am

Thats what modprobe does, by loading them. You should also be able to see dmesg (kernel) output confirming the device node associated with the device. You might have to search for more info on your camera, kino, and firewire with sensible keywords.

Linuxinlennox · August 4, 2010, 2:20am

Well, good news folks.
I shut down my machine last night saddened and disgusted with its behavior. I had absolutely given up. This morning I didn’t even want to attempt to connect the camera to Kino again in case it put me in a bad mood for the rest of the day. For some reason I did, and suddenly it came to life. The capture button was red and away we were away.
I want to thank deano and Bruce who who so kindly and patiently helped me with this. I do need a new HD camera but I have a stack of tape, including lots of family baby stuff that I really needed to preserve. The camera is not compatible with the TV’s in this region. It was all for a good cause. Really appreciated the help. Thank you.

deano_ferrari · August 4, 2010, 2:46am

Thats great news. You’re now a firewire guru!

randyorton · August 4, 2010, 6:37am

I tried using Kino and Cinelerra to capture video from my Panasonic DV camcorder in my Ubuntu 8.04, but none of those softwares detected my camcorder. I tried both firewire and USB. Kino was giving me “WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394!” error. I couldn’t find out how to load raw1394 kernel module, so I tried changing the permission to 660 for /dev/raw1394. That didn’t help. I finally got it to work after I changed the permission to 777.

   KINO: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394!

DenverD · August 4, 2010, 9:37am

Linuxinlennox wrote:
> suddenly it came to life.

just an idea, try to do all the work with it you can before you
shutdown or turn off the camera again…

never know when “suddenly” it never works again…that is the problem
with “suddenly it works” (and you don’t know why or what you did
during one of those “trying a…whole combination of different things”
etc last session before you shutdown!

–
DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]