Idea: The OpenSuSE people should to do a router firmware builder

Why not have a firmware like DD-WRT that you can flash to a router. Really it is more of a app. that you open, then it lets you customize & pick the features you want. First you pick the brand & model or your router, then what ever your router will support is available to customize. Then when you are done, it will build costume router firmware for your router. Then just flash the costume firmware, go in router & set up. :slight_smile:

Why exactly?
I know what you are talking about, but what kind of need is there for this?

Why? There are other distros that are better for this, like DD-WRT itself, maybe Slitaz, tinycore, or T2? Developer effort is not unlimited you know. openSUSE should concentrate effort on things its good at. Of course nobody will stop you if you want to use studio as a base to develop something like this.

Unless by costume firmware you mean something like gecko suits and that sort of thing? :wink:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:16:01 +0000, caf4926 wrote:

> Edward78;2190217 Wrote:
>> Why not have a firmware like DD-WRT that you can flash to a router.
>> Really it is more of a app. that you open, then it lets you customize &
>> pick the features you want. First you pick the brand & model or your
>> router, then what ever your router will support is available to
>> customize. Then when you are done, it will build costume router
>> firmware for your router. Then just flash the costume firmware, go in
>> router & set up. :slight_smile:
>
> Why exactly?
> I know what you are talking about, but what kind of need is there for
> this?

Yeah, I can’t see a good reason to do this either - the smallest openSUSE
builds are far too big to be used in a router - I prefer openwrt for my
router.

The project trying to go too broad would limit the resources to do the
work that’s already being done. That said, Edward78, if you have the
bandwidth to work on something like this, nobody would stop you. :slight_smile:

Jim

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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

Considering the average SOHO router’s ram is between 4 and 32MiB. It would have to be hacked so much that it barely if at all resembles OpenSUSE.

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:36:01 +0000, ns89 wrote:

> Considering the average SOHO router’s ram is between 4 and 32MiB. It
> would have to be hacked so much that it barely if at all resembles
> OpenSUSE.

Yep. The DIR-825 that I’m running openWRT on has 8 MB of flash, which is
not bad for a router in that class. The smallest appliance image I’ve
created so far in Studio is about 107 MB.

Jim

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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

ns89 wrote:

>
> Considering the average SOHO router’s ram is between 4 and 32MiB. It
> would have to be hacked so much that it barely if at all resembles
> OpenSUSE.

I had SuSE Linux 7.1 running on a 486 with 24M RAM for quite a few years
(as a firewall/gateway). There’s really no reason why openSUSE
couldn’t be cut down to the same, but the installation itself would not
be possible due to YaSTs storage requirements.

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Per Jessen, Zürich (20.8°C)
http://en.opensuse.org/User:Pjessen

I wasn’t talking about a standard computer (like a tower or blade) acting as a router.
I meant the SOHOs, most of them are running with MIPS based processors ranging from 200 - 300MHZ and limited NV-memory under 8MiB.
Yes, it could be done, but why would you want to?
If however we are talking about the big enterprise routers, wich are basicly SOHOs on steriods or just plain PCs being used for one purpose, it would be very possible to make an OpenSUSE distro made for routing.
Since most of those have the storage, the RAM, and the processing power, you would have to do very little if anything to get one working.
That being said they’re are a ton of distros that do just that already.

ns89 wrote:

>
> pjessen;2191127 Wrote:
>> ns89 wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Considering the average SOHO router’s ram is between 4 and 32MiB.
>> > It would have to be hacked so much that it barely if at all
>> > resembles OpenSUSE.
>>
>> I had SuSE Linux 7.1 running on a 486 with 24M RAM for quite a few
>> years (as a firewall/gateway). There’s really no reason why openSUSE
>> couldn’t be cut down to the same, but the installation itself would
>> not be possible due to YaSTs storage requirements.
>>
>
> I wasn’t talking about a standard computer (like a tower or blade)
> acting as a router. I meant the SOHOs, most of them are running with
> MIPS based processors ranging from 200 - 300MHZ and limited NV-memory
> under 8MiB.

Well, I submit that an ancient 486 at 66MHz with 24Mb is not SO
different to one of those.

> Yes, it could be done, but why would you want to?

Slightly different question - no, I wouldn’t want to, I’d get one of
these: http://www.pcengines.ch/

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Per Jessen, Zürich (17.1°C)
http://en.opensuse.org/User:Pjessen