I’ve got a new computer !
I want to recreate my Tumbleweed KDE installation on the new machine HOWEVER I only want the Plasma desktop and environment I do not want the applications KEDpim, Baloo, Akonadi and the rest
I also would like to avoid having my hard disk full of 32 bit programmes - as far as I can make out, apart from an aged webcam which I never use and some old external drives, everything is 64 bit. In my present setup virtually every programme is installed in both 64 and 32 bit.
I haven’t installed from the newer installer yet, but with the traditional yast-based installer it was only necessary to select a basic installation instead of Gnome or KDE, and then on a following screen select detailed package selection near the lower left corner. Once into detail’s lists and packages screen, I deselect from the top menu installing “recommends”, which may be more limiting than you wish. Thereafter, you can pick and choose to your heart’s delight, including tabooing, which equates to zypper locking. Just make sure not to omit bootloader, networking or package management if you do deselect recommends. Anything else you miss can be added on a subsequent boot.
So much for the new installer…
I downloaded the image two days ago. It’s very much the old one and impossible to use - it (of course) doesn’t take into account high dpi so you’re trying to work with characters 3mm high and the partitioning is completely unusable - and their proposition is absolutely what I don’t want. I suppose I’m going to have to start a new thread…
Oh and “Impression” the software recommended to write the image to the stick doesn’t work either - use Ventoy
NO, Ventoy is known to change something in the openSUSE .iso images and using that app is asking for trouble (try searching the Forums…). Just use any other app that can offer “plain” copy of the image, or just dd if you are on Linux.
SDB:Linuxrc - openSUSE Wiki is the howto for startup of the old installer, which provides XVideo= to run the installer in any resolution a display can support. If you have a 3840x2160, try e.g. XVideo=2048x1152 or XVideo=3840x2160,168. If you expect to need use of the vttys during installation, also add e.g. video=2560x1440@60, which affects them only.
That is useful to know, but it doesn’t change the partitioning - you just have what is proposed and no way of changing it. I’m going to have to go in with g-parted first, which irritates me no end
I checked the forums about Ventoy and the developer has engaged with the army of people raising issues (primarily the use of blobs, which I understand to be open source code developed elsewhere) and is working on sorting it out to give full transparency.
For the sake of testing I downloaded the latest Agama, burnt it to a pendrive using SUSE Studio Image Writer, booted, chose “Tumbleweed” for install and was able to setup the partitioning to my liking. It is just not as user friendly as the old installer was, but the functionality is definitely there (in the “Storage” setup section.
You can keep some partitions, delete/resize others, use the blank space for new partitions or just mount and use existing ones (e.g. an existing /home). Maybe you need several clicks, but you can definitely do whatever you want.
For the install selection, the new Agama is still way less flexible than the old installer.
You may select the “Basic desktop based on ICEWm”, then after the first reboot you should have all the tools to add those pieces of Plasma you lke and nothing more.
Don’t use the “Basic server” as a starting point, since that is truly for “server” jobs (i.e. not even the basic systemd links related to a basic desktop setup).
As for “Impression”, I too think that it still has a quarter mile to go, I wonder how anybody would recommend it on the “official” WiKi.
@myswtest Start with JeOS (or MicroOS) and work up to want your wanting?
My MicroOS Hyrpland was done that way, this was after playing around in a vm to test combustion install/configuration to get a workable solution before installing on bar-metal.
As I see it the Tumbleweed ISOs still use the “old YaST” installer, but AGAMA can install Tumbleweed (and anything else openSUSE…); since the OP complains about partitioning I assumed that AGAMA is in use there. If that is not the case, our advice might be different in the details.
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To me, that’s a bit confusing… “what 32 bit apps”??
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For virtually every package that is installed zypper includes it’s 32bit little brother. I don’t know why, I just know they’re there. I was going to include an examle from a dup, but the packman repo is messed up in some way so zypper blocked itself…
As for partitioning, others seem to find it easy, but I can’t make it work - I need a GUI, I’m not a command line genius.
The only thing I miss after dumping kubuntu is the installer - intuitive and easy to use. I find the OpenSuze one a stress-inducing headache. I tried Agama, it is easier in some respects, mainly you don’t have to back-pedal through the algorithm if you think you’ve got something wrong, but software choices are very limited - no way that I could find of eliminating or adding packages.
So we are writing about the YaST installer now (you are using a Tumbleweed .iso, not the AGAMA one)?
Boot, select “Install”, at the desktop choice screen select “Generic Desktop”, when a partitioning proposal is shown click on “Expert Partitioner”, then “Start with Existing Partitions”: you should be presented with a GUI partitioner that doesn’t look that different to GParted to me. There you can edit or delete any existing partition, add a new one with a filesystem to your liking etc.
No bells and whistles for sure, but hard to name it a headache; if you still don’t find it usable then prepare your disk with GParted and then “Start with Existing Partitions”…
When at the “Install Summary”, click on the “Software” heading, there you can view what is pre-selected, you can hit the “Details” button and see what is essentially the YaST software installer, where you can add or delete as you like.
Possibly adding the “KDE Plasma 6 Desktop Base” is what you asked for in the OP.
I see no 32-bit stuff pre-selected, but that might depend on HW.
If you need further hints ask here, but please be specific on what you are using and what you are trying to achieve.
I did what I said I was going to (and which you suggested) I went in first with the Gparted (with it’s nice gui - you can resize and move things intuitively) and then used the tumbleweed live image.
It all went smoothly - except that it said it was going to reboot… and didn’t. So I rebooted manually and it hangs over some problem with amdgpu. I was using ventoy so I’ve been trying to find a way of creating a USB drive that my computer will recognise - Impression made USB is not recognised and I’ve had no better results with UNetbootin… it’s f…ked. I have a selection of unusable USB sticks.
@Cyclonick if you use wipefs -a /dev/sdN on the device it should clean up and run gdisk on it to create a new gpt device… Make SURE you get the right device in that command!!!
At the moment I’m trying BalenaEtcher… Thing is, ventoy is the only way I can get in at the moment and there’s something about the way it works that can upset things with Opensuse installs - Im being vague, but I’m getting exhausted
I tried and I couldn’t make it work
I’m not good with command line stuff - particularly when not happy.
Anyway I think Balena is the way to go : it works, it’s recognised by the computer and no one can complain it has a funny structure like Ventoy -
But the same thing happened - it said it was going to reboot and didn’t and so, after 10 minutes I shut it down manually, rebooted and it hangs in the same place…
They do say the live disk image is experimental, so maybe that is the problem. I’ll have to download the official installer and try that… if it still doesn’t work then there’s a bug or something in the install process (I think I’ll have eliminated everything else).
Maybe this is the problem, a “new” AMD GPU that needs a driver/boot option that is not available in the standard install. If you can write what your graphic is maybe @malcolmlewis will be able to help. If you can boot any live distro and issue inxi -GSaz and copy/paste the result here as pre-formatted text (the </> button above the editing area).
It’s an integrated GPU AMD Ryzen 5 8600G mounted on an ASRock A620M Pro RS mother board it’s graphics chipset is, apparently AMD Radeon 760M. It’s not the latest model - I don’t have the wherewithal for that, I bounce along a generation or two behind.
I’m sorry for being stupid but I issue the command when and where? I assume it’s in konsole once it’s all loaded, but I’d like to be sure.
After the first install attempt I did have a look to see if the files had been installed (which they had), but looking at /home I found my /home/user folder and it had not been populated with the folders (/documents, /Images, /music etc.) that I would expect from every other installation I’ve done.
That suggests to me that the configuration process didn’t work for some reason.