I use kde:)
Wow, you are having a bad day rotfl!
“worse than useless”…are you sure you wouldn’t like to stress that a bit more?
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“mindlessly runs everything in autostart”…maybe you should take out the things you …etc etc
i use gnome since Opensuse 10.1…
After using Gnome for a few days now, I have one more thing to add: PuleAudio makes life harder for me 
Especially since I use Skype every day.
I think the only thing I am not all that keen on with the Gnome slab menu is that to open any applications not on your favorites list, it requires a separate window.
Not that I am 100% satisfied with KDE 4’s sliding menu method either.
Fellow Gnome user here. I did a thread called “Pulseaudio must die” on these forums that tells you how to disable pulseaudio, and of course oldcpu has written many threads and posts about audio problems.
I like YaST with the GTK based UI, it’s easy to see which repos are contributing updates. It was good enough for me to come back to YaST from using Smart after the 10.1 fiasco.
Admittedly I use the autoclose patched version of YaST on 11.1, but it’s fine, really.
Temporarily solved my PulseAudio issue. Installed latest version of OSS and installed skype 2.0 static oss. Works as a charm… so far.
Edit: And my other applications as mplayer, crossover games and such still works.
used to be a big kde person, and i used kde prefered in many distros, but i am starting to see overall that kde4 isn’t all that easy, clean but new, and shiny desktop as it used to see, its pretty hardcore if you compare applications (koffice, kdenlive, konqueror web browser, many which i would not deem suitable for average user) gnome if it wasn’t so ugly vanilla would be a major spot, but because kde4 is a sexy looking desktop with plasma, gnome is left in the dust with the exception of Ubuntu community. Shame because gnome has the mainstream applications and UI.
i haven’t tried 11.2 kde, 11.1 i did and it was OK, mandriva 2010 wins kde4 hands down, mandriva team really knows how to make the best kde4 implication. But regardless, im on Suse 11.2 Gnome, and its probable my favorite of all to be honest.
Are you using Skype 2.1 beta? I’m using it now under GNOME. It’s not perfect but livable.
No, I tried the 2.1 beta but had so many problems with PulseAudio, so I changed to 2.0 beta and OSS4.2. Works better, at least for me.
How many run openSUSE Gnome?
Me.
Yes well it was RH who entrenched me in the KDE camp, GNOME-1 used to crash regular enough to be annoying even in RH-6.2, and I battled through for about 6 months using 6.0, 6.1 and finally 6.2 before simply switching to KDE via rpm download, which was much preferred by most.
RH-7.0 (which broke LSB ABI with a pre-release unofficial gcc 2.96) and the subscription updates, convinced me to switch back to SuSE Linux which made YOU freely available.
GNOME-2 coming out, stripping out lots of features, seemed dumbed down to me, and I found resentment building, when I gave myself a few months with Ubuntu 7.10 to try and get used to it. Once openSUSE 10.3 got stable (needed quite a few kernel updates and loads of other patches), it was so superior in MS integration, and the core engineering to Ubuntu, I didn’t look back.
To me it is really sad that the Harmony project didn’t succeed, that was a GPL Qt library, rather than having the Linux desktop split along C/GTK GNOME and C++/KDE-Qt lines. Until the freedesktop.org initiative came and made interoperability strides, the user base for Linux has been fractured, as a consequence.
I like Gnome, will use Xfce of a computer that not that strong.
Yes, I agree.
… it’s just a bit faster to get work done in GNOME than in KDE. Programs more easily accessible, just fire up a menu and choose Firefox (it’s right in front of you) and you’re set to go. In KDE, either set a desktop icon or go to the application launcher, type Firefox and choose the option in the menu for the fastest KDE way.
Errrr… NO!
In KDE put FF on Quicklaunch button, that’s generally the fastest way to start it, because the “target” is always in same place, and will be clickable (even with disappearing task manager panel).
Following that,like you suggest having an http:// link on Desktop in area you keep clear for Wastebin & Download Drop Targets etc.
Only then an entry in the favourites Menu, because it’s a Move & 2-click operation.
Anything new or interesting in openSUSE’s 11.2 Gnome?
I just have to admit it,… I’m a Gnome guy. I was trying KDE for a while and while it IS pretty good, I just kept wanting to go back to Gnome.
I’m thinking of replacing the slab menu with the 3-menu bar (Applications, Place and System).
I dislike the way “More Applications” opens up a new window, or I have to either reduce the number of “Favorites” or pin so many the menu takes up 3/4 of the screen to fit them all.
I’ve been fighting with Skype because it would only, if I was lucky, pick up the Mic but not the video. Come to realize the webcam was not working at all, that the laptop has an internal Mic that does work and that was what Skype was using.:shame: Whoops!
So, any changes with Gnome in oS 11.2? Pitfalls? Enhancements?
I’m a recent KDE convert to GNOME, been a KDE user for ages. I was among the few earlier that really liked KDE 4.x…but what turned me off was Akondi and Nepomuk. I bought a shiny new HTC Android this weekend and, obviously, turned to Kontact to get the sync going with Google Calendar and Contacts. To my dismay I learnt that Akonadi was the only way to get it working and Akonadi comes with a bloated MySQL server!! Why do I need an SQL server just to store my PIM data, was beyond me. When I learnt that KDE 4.4 was going to migrate to Akonadi…it was the final straw…the earlier one that broke the camel’s back was Nepomuk which was nothing but a HUGE memory hog on my modest Thinkpad R61i.
I don’t wish to start a rant between GNOME and KDE, each one to his own…but those are my observations about the upcoming KDE 4.4.x.
I turn to GNOME, specifically Evolution and found that Google Calendar and Contacts syncs effortlessly. I began using GNOME more often and began to appreciate its difference from KDE…and the fact that it doesn’t get in my way of getting stuff done. KDE does get in the way of getting work done through its myriad notifiers, kdepim crashes (not Plasma crash) and often memory hogging programs (like Akonadi, Nepomuk etc). What I don’t like about GNOME is Mono, but that can be (surprisingly) avoided with Opensuse, just like with Mandriva and Fedora.
That said, I’m an ex-Mandriva user and Opensuse’s GNOME could learn a thing or two from Mandriva, like its menu structure. I’m not a big fan of the kickoff style menu structure. What I like about Opensuse’s GNOME is the easy upgrade path to a newer version of Opensuse and the OBS which makes packages easier to make and distribute to the community.
-Anshul
Im runing GNOME too. Tried many times with KDE... but.. its not for me… way too complicated!
By the way… openSUSE runs great with GNOME 2.28!
I’ve been enjoying it for a while, but its starting to come up with some issues so I’m going to have to reserve judgement until I can get these resolved.
Heard that KDE has more bugs than GNOME…