How do I install an older kernel

raijar · October 26, 2023, 3:34pm

I am using the latest kernel, i.e. 6.5.8-1-default.
Since the mouse and keyboard do not work in this package after reboot, I would like to try an older kernel, i.e. 6.5.6-1-default.

I have tried that the previous package works ok.

How could I install the 6.5.6-1-default kernel in the package below?

Operating System: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20231023
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.111.0
Qt Version: 5.15.11
Kernel Version: 6.5.8-1-default (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX with Radeon Graphics
Memory: 30.7 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon Graphics
Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Product Name: MINIPC PN52type or paste code here

Maverick1024 · October 26, 2023, 4:04pm

You should still have the 6.5.6 kernel installed since it was the previous one to 6.5.8. Just reboot your computer and go into the Advanced options from the Grub menu and see if it’s in there.

raijar · October 26, 2023, 4:36pm

I don’t understand how to open the GRUB menu.

If I reboot Tumbleweed when the latest package is active, I can’t do anything because my mouse cursor doesn’t move and the keyboard doesn’t respond to any key. So both are dead.
In this case, this information appears on the screen before starting (picture 3.jpg).

This only happens when the computer is started with the “reboot” command. If the computer is started with the “restart” command, the mouse and keyboard connected via USB will work.

aggie · October 26, 2023, 4:39pm

Okay, then use “restart” … then when Grub menu displays, use the arrow keys to select Advanced, and then previous kernel.

arvidjaar · October 26, 2023, 5:00pm

I have no idea what you mean. What is “restart” command?

raijar · October 26, 2023, 6:01pm

Sorry for the bad translation.
Restart = turn off and on from the power switch.

raijar · October 26, 2023, 6:08pm

Now an older kernel is in use. I will send more information as soon as I can collect it.

Operating System: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20231023
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.111.0
Qt Version: 5.15.11
Kernel Version: 6.5.6-1-default (64-bit)  <========
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX with Radeon Graphics
Memory: 30.7 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon Graphics
Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Product Name: MINIPC PN52

raijar · October 26, 2023, 6:57pm

I tried to get a log file of the situation where kernel 6.5.6-1-default is loaded on the computer, but it worked the same way as 6.5.8-1-default. It’s a bit difficult for me to gather information, when the mouse and keyboard really don’t work.
Mouse Logitech USB M190
Keyboard Logitech USB (model?)

However, I have two files saved

power_off_on_kernel_6_8_1.log (one boot)
reboot_kernel_6_8_1 (two boots, i.e. first an error situation and then power_off_on, so that I could get compiled information)

The files are quite large, so where can I save them?

mrmazda · October 26, 2023, 11:03pm

On computers with PS/2 ports, using a PS/2-connected keyboard could be your savior. Don’t ever try to hotplug one though. PC needs to be off when connection made or you could loose the port.

arvidjaar · October 27, 2023, 7:15am

You could try playing with reboot= kernel parameter. See The kernel’s command-line parameters — The Linux Kernel documentation, search for reboot=. Try different reboot_mode and reboot_type. In particular, warm vs. cold sounds interesting.

aggie · October 27, 2023, 11:52am

You can use this to post large file output:
https://paste.opensuse.org

raijar · October 27, 2023, 12:11pm

I tried to save the files but I don’t know if I succeeded because I can’t find them anymore. This is too hard for me again. Why doesn’t the file name appear?

hui · October 27, 2023, 12:17pm

You need to copy the link. It is a online service….
This seem like yours:
https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/7911c3549db0
https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/60fd1d06c716

raijar · October 27, 2023, 12:20pm

Also these:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/60fd1d06c716

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/112a7e25b09a

I pasted and destroyed those links several times when I thought that somehow the file name would come up.
I’m sorry for being so stupid.

raijar · October 27, 2023, 1:58pm

I have played with the USB ports and have come to the conclusion that the USB ports marked with a red circle do not work after the reboot command (Those marked in green always work).
After the power-off-power-on command they also work.
What is the difference between those commands software-wise, is something left uninitialized?

raijar · October 28, 2023, 12:07pm

Well, I have to say that I didn’t even understand the command syntax

arvidjaar · October 28, 2023, 12:26pm

You add kernel parameter

reboot=cold

and if nothing changed, continue with other values. It is possible to combine with other options, like

reboot=cold,acpi

Svyatko · October 28, 2023, 1:48pm

Supposedly ‘green’ ports are connected to CPU (APU), ‘red’ ports - to chipset (south bridge) or USB controller. If TW breaks USB subsystem then ‘red’ ports don’t work…
Try to change USB power settings in BIOS. Test PC with Leap.
BIOS upgrade may help.

raijar · October 28, 2023, 2:58pm

Nothing happens?

kone1:~ # timedatectl
               Local time: Sat 2023-10-28 17:55:27 EEST
           Universal time: Sat 2023-10-28 14:55:27 UTC
                 RTC time: Sat 2023-10-28 14:55:27
                Time zone: Europe/Helsinki (EEST, +0300)
System clock synchronized: yes
              NTP service: active
          RTC in local TZ: no
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # reboot=cold
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # timedatectl
               Local time: Sat 2023-10-28 17:55:46 EEST
           Universal time: Sat 2023-10-28 14:55:46 UTC
                 RTC time: Sat 2023-10-28 14:55:46
                Time zone: Europe/Helsinki (EEST, +0300)
System clock synchronized: yes
              NTP service: active
          RTC in local TZ: no
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # reboot=cold,acpi
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # 
kone1:~ # timedatectl
               Local time: Sat 2023-10-28 17:57:22 EEST
           Universal time: Sat 2023-10-28 14:57:22 UTC
                 RTC time: Sat 2023-10-28 14:57:22
                Time zone: Europe/Helsinki (EEST, +0300)
System clock synchronized: yes
              NTP service: active
          RTC in local TZ: no
kone1:~ #

raijar · October 28, 2023, 3:12pm

This sounds reasonable. I’m trying to change the USB power values in bios, but I’m no master with bios.
I can get around this problem by putting all USB devices in one hub. But it interests me because I think this is a bug, this is not how it should work.
I have no way to install Leap. Or I could install it alongside TW, but I don’t know how to partition the hard drive.