How did you install openSUSE Leap/Tumbleweed

  • DVD
  • Net install
  • Live image
  • All of the above

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I did answer the vote but I wonder, voting “Live image” but thinking more, is that correct?

I did get a downloadable DVD (~4.7 GB) and burned this on a USB stick and booted from there to do the install so I called that “Live image”. With a large proportion of the voters indicating DVD I guess others call that DVD.

Tried this Reliable And Safe Recipe

  1. Fetch latest and greatest:
erlangen:~ # wget https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Current.iso
--2023-07-09 08:22:34--  https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Current.iso
Resolving download.opensuse.org (download.opensuse.org)... 2001:67c:2178:8::13, 195.135.221.134
Connecting to download.opensuse.org (download.opensuse.org)|2001:67c:2178:8::13|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Snapshot20230707-Media.iso [following]
--2023-07-09 08:22:34--  https://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Snapshot20230707-Media.iso
Reusing existing connection to [download.opensuse.org]:443.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: https://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/opensuse/tumbleweed/iso/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Snapshot20230707-Media.iso [following]
--2023-07-09 08:22:34--  https://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/opensuse/tumbleweed/iso/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Snapshot20230707-Media.iso
Resolving mirror.de.leaseweb.net (mirror.de.leaseweb.net)... 2a00:c98:2030:a034::21, 37.58.58.140
Connecting to mirror.de.leaseweb.net (mirror.de.leaseweb.net)|2a00:c98:2030:a034::21|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 233832448 (223M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Current.iso’

openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Current.iso                 100%[========================================================================================================================================>] 223.00M  6.54MB/s    in 34s     

2023-07-09 08:23:09 (6.54 MB/s) - ‘openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Current.iso’ saved [233832448/233832448]

erlangen:~ # 
  1. Double check device path:
erlangen:~ # findmnt /media/9597-1A97 
TARGET           SOURCE    FSTYPE OPTIONS
/media/9597-1A97 /dev/sdb1 vfat   rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=100,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro
erlangen:~ # 
  1. Create USB stick
erlangen:~ # dd if=openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64-Current.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M oflag=direct status=progress
205520896 bytes (206 MB, 196 MiB) copied, 4 s, 51.2 MB/s233832448 bytes (234 MB, 223 MiB) copied, 4.23052 s, 55.3 MB/s

55+1 records in
55+1 records out
233832448 bytes (234 MB, 223 MiB) copied, 4.25983 s, 54.9 MB/s
erlangen:~ # 
erlangen:~ # fdisk -l /dev/sdb
Disk /dev/sdb: 29.82 GiB, 32023511040 bytes, 62545920 sectors
Disk model: Ultra Line      
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x5608805f

Device     Boot Start    End Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1         264   9587    9324   4.6M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
/dev/sdb2  *     9588 456703  447116 218.3M 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS
erlangen:~ # 

erlangen:~ # findmnt /media/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64 
TARGET                                SOURCE    FSTYPE  OPTIONS
/media/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-x86_64 /dev/sdb2 iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,nojoliet,check=s,map=n,blocksize=2048,uid=1000,gid=100,dmode=555,fmode=444,iocharset=utf8
erlangen:~ # 

Then the stick is now one smoking and stinking mess I assume.

BTW, that is not called a “Live image”. A live image is an operating system on a removable mass-storage device, that can be run by booting from that device. When it is a more simple OS (e.g. only text) it is also often call “rescue image/system” (and used for changing/repairing things on the OS that is on the main mass-storage of the system). But a “full” Live image will contains at least one complete DE and works as a “normal” system (though maybe slower) and is often used for showing how that OS looks like. There is often a feature when running a Live system, to use that as an installation system to install the same OS on the systems “internal” mass-storage.

An installation ISO (as it is often called for short) that is made for burning on a DVD, can also be copied to a removable mass-storage device (USB stick) and then (if the system permits booting from that device) used in exactly the same way as the DVD for installation. But that is not called a “Live system”.

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I just updated 15.5 to tw online

Reason is not because “I wanted to” but it appears that 15.5/vmware workstation on both linux as well as windows broke the copy/paste function. It does not break in tw.

Same was done on my work-laptop as well maybe a few days after 15.5 came out. for that same reason.

I could still boot the USB stick and did not smell anything :wink:

BTW, that is not called a “Live image”. A live image is an operating system on a removable mass-storage device, that can be run by booting from that device.

That last matches the Offline Image (4.3 GiB) I was talking about but called “a downloadable DVD (~4.7 GB)”, so it is still not clear to me what is the difference between “DVD” and “Live Image” in the poll.

Click on “Alternative Downloads” and you will see what Live Images are and that they are called “LiveCD”

I agree that creating a good poll is a professional job. The poll should accommodate all possibilities. and this one doesn’t.

But I assume that with “DVD” he means the downloadable installation ISO, that can be burned to a DVD, or copied to an USB stick and then used for installation.

I also assume that by a “Live image” he means the ready to run, from a medium, versions of openSUSE (there are or were different ones with ready KDE or Gnome) without touching the system(s) that now is (are) installed on it. Just boot from them and you will have a demonstration openSUSE with KDE or Gnome. Nice to check if your hardware is fit for openSUSE, or to show your friend that it can run on his system “and look how nice it is”, etc. These Live systems often have the option to install openSUSE from it to the system disks.
This is quite different from an installation ISO.

And of course, the poll misses the option for those who have installed several systems and maybe used different methods.

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Actually why is the DVD not live?
The live gives the bonus, that I still can continue to use the system during installation. I would always prefer it.

I also think preinstall more is better, so you don’t need to search for it afterwards, that means I always install everything from DVD with all desktops.

The Offline Image (4.3 GiB) and the Network Image (223.0 MiB) boot into a rudimentary linux system. It’s main purpose is installing a distribution on the internal drives of the computer.

The KDE LiveCD (904.5 MiB) and others boot into a distribution on the external drive attached to the computer.

Caveats on the Tumbleweed download page:

  1. They should not be used to install or upgrade. Please use the installation media instead
  1. They have a limited package and driver selection, so cannot be considered an accurate reflection as to whether the distribution will work on your hardware or not
  1. Kernel and initrd can’t be updated, so they shouldn’t be used as a persistent installation

I basically put in a USB stick containing the offline image and pressed next a few times*

*that’s not entirely true, I created two BTRFS volumes and mounted accordingly to manage my absolutely batshit storage situation, but otherwise I pressed next a few times.

Edit: god I hate markdownn so much. Just let me type stuff without interpreting it as formatting -_-

Maybe because of the newer packages?

I burned Tumbleweed iso to a USB stick and installed it

I can only repeat from above:

Thats the good thing with the DVD iso, to be able to choose a desktop and then install it.