looks like Polish to me?
(I get this from more than one PC)
**** - posting a screen shot is hassle - have a look yourselves!
an hour later and its turned into Dutch… well that’s more reasonable - I do have an NL IP address!
(and at least I can understand it now)
My left panel is (?) Dutch. Right panel is English.
There is a headache for someone!
here is a grab of it for those wondering:
http://thumbnails21.imagebam.com/5365/9b289453643033.gif](http://www.imagebam.com/image/9b289453643033/)
Someone slipped up I guess, there has been some major shuffling recently with the software and widehat services, getting ready for RC2 and ultimately 11.2
> (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9b289453643033/)
does it bother anyone else that a major (?) Information Technology
company listed on the New York Stock Exchange [NOVL] can’t support
their Linux factory/foundry any better than this??
its like no matter how much we put into it [it being smashing bugs so
they can sell SLES/D], Novell can’t figure out how to develop an
assured stream of high quality community support flowing back to us…
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palladium
I’m in the U.S and it doesn’t seem to be affected here. Everything looks as though it should.
No. Mistakes happen. People are human. As a non-US citizen, I fail to see the relevance of the NYSE. 
Its possible this only happened in certain parts of the world, making it much hard to test. Testing is likely very complicated because of the very large number of languages being supported.
It appears to be fixed now
It lasted circa 12 hours. What’s wrong with that? Take a break!
> It lasted circa 12 hours. What’s wrong with that? Take a break!
it is not that this is just an isolated incident…there is a pattern
of non-support that is very obvious…
how many weekends do we have ‘little problems’ like folks can’t sign
in, or the mirrors can’t be reached, or the forum skins are messed
up…etc etc etc…many many in the year and a half i’ve been here…
my working hypnosis is the experienced and capable system admins have
the weekends off…which is why we so often get those “little
problems” fixed beginning about the time it is monday morning in
Germany, and/or Utah …
oldcpu: the relevance to the NYSE is it is a public, profit oriented
company who, in my opinion, is like many others with accountants
killing their future by focusing too much on increasing short term
profits by “controlling” current support costs…while you personally
may not be involved because you are a non-US citizen, there are many
many thousands of investors who care, no matter their citizenship or
where they live…
you too can be a share holder, and care as i do…NOVL is available
for purchase no matter where you live…
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palladium
…like many others with accountants
killing their future by focusing too much on increasing short term
profits by “controlling” current support costs…
Here’s an alternate view: If NOVL was really after a buck they’d drop openSUSE like a hot rock. Thank goodness they do have a long term view and keep it going.
So there’s two equally uniformed opinions. It’s easy to generate uninformed opinions DD. Dime a dozen.
I do trade on a stock market. I don’t trade on the NYSE.
I do not believe the fact that Novell maybe listed on the NYSE has any relevance to someone, somewhere in the Novell organization, making an error in a web page that has multi-language support, and hence by nature is a difficult web page to test.
NYSE companies make major mistakes than can cost trillions of $$. The recent wall street scandals play testament to that. I definitely would not use NYSE as my example of an organization that suggest a higher standard should be held to in maintenance of a web page. The examples of real companies on the NYSE suggests the opposite.
All I see here is an ax being ground.
The NYSE, isn’t that where Bernie Maddox was doing his tricks?
Why can’t people just think: “Oops, some mistake was made.”, report it, see that it gets fixed, assume the originator of the mistake has learned from it, and leave it like that?
@Palladium: IMHO you should think about the posting as a guest. This way you bang into the room, shout what you want to, and close the door again. At least that’s how it feels.
Jeez DD, you really need to find a chair that doesn’t have a spring sticking out of it!
You were just last week blasting a newb about how he is so lucky that he has this fabulous free OS and how people give their free time to provide it, and not to come on these forums complaining about slow download speeds!!!
Make your mind up!
> @Palladium: IMHO you should think about the posting as a guest. This
> way you bang into the room, shout what you want to, and close the door
> again. At least that’s how it feels.
i’m here every day…why do you get the feeling i bang in, shout and
bang the door out??
my opinion would be that maybe you should try to figure out why you
get the bang-the-door feeling that you do and just ignore the fact
that i (and some others) prefer reading/responding via nntp for lots
of reasons…
a main one being SPEED and ease of finding all new posts…in all fora
i’m interested in…
and, i get exactly the same look and feel, editing tools and ‘feeling’
whether i’m in a mail list, usenet group, private nntp group, email
back and forth or openSUSE forum…
AND, there is no time limit on how long i can edit or stay “signed
in”…i can walk away from this note and come back tomorrow and
wicker it to death and THEN post it…no problem…(and no blinking
avatars to catch my eye)
have you tried nntp (i tried it the other way)…
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palladium
> Make your mind up!
oh man, can’t you imagine there is a difference between putting
software on donated (sometimes slow) mirrors around the world or
keeping the magic which directs folks to the ‘correct’ mirror working
even through the weekends?
versus, keeping the language modules straight…
i do not know, but i GUESS that there is a weekly cron running
somewhere which is ‘messing’ with the wiki/web site…
and, instead of running it while the “A-Team” is on duty (in case
there is a problem), it is run in the dark hours of friday or saturday
night (with the idea that that is an off-peak time)…which is a
great idea UNLESS it breaks stuff and the A-Team won’t fix it until
monday…because ‘corporate’ won’t fund a A-Team to come in and fix
it at weekend pay rates…
i mean, over ZERO weekends have i noticed IBM’s (or KLM’s, Facebook,
Google, IBM’s, M$'s, DELL’s etc etc etc etc) multi-language sites
losing their mind! have you??
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palladium
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:13:22 +0000, palladium wrote:
> i do not know, but i GUESS that there is a weekly cron running somewhere
> which is ‘messing’ with the wiki/web site…
Yes, because of course, they want the site to not work properly. (Please
note the carefully hidden sarcasm tags)
Stand down, man - someone made a mistake. It’s not the end of the
world. The issue has apparently been fixed.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
> Stand down, man - someone made a mistake. It’s not the end of the
> world. The issue has apparently been fixed.
i am not standing, i am sitting–and, not angry just observing and
wondering why the bulk of the ‘mistakes’ happen between COB friday and
some time on saturday or sunday…
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palladium
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:05:15 +0000, palladium wrote:
>> Stand down, man - someone made a mistake. It’s not the end of the
>> world. The issue has apparently been fixed.
>
> i am not standing, i am sitting–and, not angry just observing and
> wondering why the bulk of the ‘mistakes’ happen between COB friday and
> some time on saturday or sunday…
I see mistakes being made on websites all around the world at pretty much
any day of the week, any time of the day or night.
Like I said, mistakes happen - we’re all human. So please cut the
maintainers a little slack. 
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator