Goodbye Party!

If you are leaving openSUSE and want to try another OS, please let us to know, why?

Will be moved to Soapbox. Not realy a question in the category
“If you are looking for manuals, books, repositories, hardware, software, etc. this is the place to see if someone can help you find it.” as the description of this forums puts it.

Moved and open again for comment.

i did not understand what happened!
is it an acceptable thread in wrong place? or, is it completely an unacceptable thread?

I thouht I made it clear enough.
In the forum you originaly posted it says:

"If you are looking for manuals, books, repositories, hardware, software, etc. this is the place to see if someone can help you find it.

I do not see that your post fits there. Do you?

I am not leaving opensuse. I’ll be staying with it. However, I am experimenting with other distros.

Thus far, I have test driven fedora for a while, and am currently test driving mint. Both are reasonably good, but if push came to shove, I would select fedora over mint.

I also gave arch linux a try. But I did not test that thoroughly enough to have a clear position. What I could already see, is that it is a lot more work setting up arch the way you want it. Having used slackware in the past, I don’t have a problem with that. But I haven’t tested it enough as of yet.

As to why I am testing other systems? It is just a matter of liking to have alternatives. At present, I much prefer opensuse over the others that I have tested. But things change, so what is best now might not always be best.

> ilAli;2483033 Wrote:
>> If you are leaving openSUSE and want to try another OS, please let us to
>> know, why?

over the years i’ve used several different operating systems and Linux
distros over the years…

and, will continue to do so…

right now openSUSE is my “daily driver” and has been since 9.2 or so (i
was in 9.1 a while, along with RH/Fedora)

and, i’m just beginning to closely inspect Android–why? because it came
on a very inexpensive tablet i probably will root.


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http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software

When do you have time for these experiments?

Nothing like rooting an android :stuck_out_tongue: lol (couldn’t resist)

Hey guys, this may not be a very popular post, but you asked for it. i will probably leave Opensuse. I really enjoy Opensuse, and think it is a great distribution.
I will hold it on one of my partitions, but once Debian Wheezy is released as stable, i will probably switch it as my primary work os.
Why?
Debian seems to receive a lot less updates to Opensuse, eg on install of Opensuse 12.2 about two weeks after release, there was already about 600mb of downloads in updates and package completion to be done. (Someone please inform me if there is a way i can only receive security updates in Opensuse, as this is my biggest issue.)
This is important to me because i am on a expensive mobile broadband connection and the less i have to use on updates, the more i have for my enjoyment.

On 2012-10-14 03:36, knightron wrote:

> of Opensuse 12.2 about two weeks after release, there was already about
> 600mb of downloads in updates and package completion to be done.

That was because this release had a long freeze before release date.

> (Someone please inform me if there is a way i can only receive security
> updates in Opensuse, as this is my biggest issue.)

Of course there is. Just use “yast online update” aka YOU, or “zypper
patch”.

> This is important to me because i am on a expensive mobile broadband
> connection and the less i have to use on updates, the more i have for my
> enjoyment.

True. When I’m away I simply do not update the laptop till I get back
home. If I had to use mobile all the time I would use a free wifi spot
for those updates.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 10/14/2012 03:36 AM, knightron wrote:
> Debian seems to receive a lot less updates to Opensuse, eg on install
> of Opensuse 12.2 about two weeks after release, there was already about
> 600mb of downloads in updates and package completion to be done.

i gave Debian a try a while back and have nothing bad to say about it!

and, from what i have heard for years i would always expect the newest
Debian release to be more ‘stable’ (and therefore need less updates)
than any openSUSE release (since about 10.0)…

that said, 12.2 was an unusual release in that the frozen release
install images had much more updates waiting in the queue than usual on
generally available day…that is: even those who installed on release
day had more updates than usual…

and, as each edition spreads out across the planet to be installed on
the millions of permutations of hardware out there, new bugs are found
by the truckload…

personally, i never move to a new release until it is as least 3 months
old–and, i therefore expect lots and lots and lots of updates–it
just seems to be unavoidable when living as close to the edge as we do
(when compared to some other distros)

you might consider an alternative to returning to Debian as:

-wait a while after initial release, before installing

-install while wired (not expensive broadband), when it asks allow it to
run in all waiting updates (you will therefore get most of the changes
while wired)

-after that, and while on expensive broadband do NOT use apper, package
kit or whatever your desktop calls the thing in the ‘tray’ which flashes
up a waving sign saying updates are available…just disable that thing,
and then occasionally (say once a week, or day ??) run YaST Online
Update or ‘zypper patch’ [as Carlos mentioned] and you will get security
updates only.

on the other hand, if you have to move: Live long and prosper…and
drop in from time to time, you are welcome.


dd

Thanks for the tips guys. Debian Wheezy isn’t expected until next year some time. I am very pleased with Opensuse 12.2. I have had two desktop freezes where i couldn’t even ctrl alt f2. I have been using Gnu/Linux for only about 15 months and am not sure what to do to find errors for situations like this, but i was to busy on other things to look into it at the time. Despite them acceptations i’m finding Opensuse 12.2 a solid release which is a requirement in the distro i choose. I’m glad the delay in the release occurred so the devs could be sure to release a stable distro. My computer was restarting when i was telling it to shutdown, but an update fixed that so at the current time, i’ve no complaints. Fantastic.
Either way, i have removed apper, as it was not letting me use zypper, (like a review in distrowatch), I have taken what robin_listas has said on board: thank you very much :slight_smile: . I will start using ‘zypper update -t patch’ usually from now on instead of ‘zypper up’. If this goes as i expect it to, i will not switch back to Debian. I really do want to stick with Opensuse; i seem to be constantly impressed with Opensuse; whether it be with how well it detects my hardware, stabilization, open builds, zyppers flexibility, the thought that has gone into yast, so many things. Honestly, when i found out yast had a ncurses, i was very impressed.

On 2012-10-14 13:16, knightron wrote:

> Either way, i have taken what robin_listas has said on board: thank you
> very much :slight_smile: . I will start using ‘zypper update -t patch’ usually from

Just “zypper patch” :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

There is no other distro like openSUSE,nothing compares to it period!If you want choice with a linux distro,openSUSE is the best starting point,in ease of use and configurability!This is the real distro hopper stopper!