> there is an FAA certified version of X-Plane availible.
i’m amazed…
with you, i guess ‘certified’ for cockpit familiarization training
only…i can’t imagine you could log it…hmmmm…strange…
on the other hand, i went through T-39 school with FlightSafety Intl
in St. Louis in '79 and my training partner (a tanker toad) and i
talked about it and decided if they give us an airplane we would go
fly it, just the two of us…and, i’m sure we could have…safely…
> Will Honea wrote:
>> Just to give that perspective, I went through pilot training when we were
>> the only base with the brand new T-38 - everyone else was still in the
>> T-33. Some of the Buffs were only 5-6 years old at the time - not even
>> broken in yet.
>
> all the T-33s were completely out of the training command when i got
> to Del Rio in early '69…on graduation i was assigned right back
> there as a T-38 IP…lots of fun…then to B-52s…and, some T-39 time
> while mostly flying a desk in Omaha (HQ)…then Buffs at Abilene until
> the B-1 came…after that nothing but staff weenie…flying was more
> fun but staff work more rewarding…
HAH! I had to snag an Academy assignment which (mandated an SEA tour) to get
out of DLF. Survived Tweets from '65 til early 69 then 350+ sorties in the
A-37 before I came back for grad school and a tour on the EE faculty at
USAFA. By then I had so much cockpit time that they canceled my A-10 slot
and told me it was R&D for me. If I was going to do that, I could make a
whole lot more on the civilian side so I bailed. Where it gets funny is
that Dad retired to Abilene so I spent a lot of time there until he passed
on in 2001. We seem to have run in a lot of the same tracks.
> You could also give VMware Player 3.0.1 a chance. It has 3D support, or
> try a xen setup.
I hadn’t thought about that. I’ll have to see how that goes but I’ve
already put more time into this than I should have so this is the last shot
before it’s back to XP and some time to catch up on the other projects.
i loved DLF (can’t explain why…the lake filled and we had a ski
boat, helped)…and loved ABI too (good TexMex in both might be a
key)…i went through B Flight, started in April '69, probably just
missed you…
350 in the superTweet, that is a pile…couple of guys in my class
went to those…Rich Rogers was our class commander, one of only two
captain with the butter bars…he would have been in country sometimes
late '70 (assumming 6-8 months from UPT grad to air-to-mud qual)…
died later in a wart hog…miss him still.
we probably should find a different place to chat…or, have we said
it all?
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:00:49 +0000, Will Honea thoughfully wrote:
> Zebulon888 wrote:
>
>> You could also give VMware Player 3.0.1 a chance. It has 3D support, or
>> try a xen setup.
>
> I hadn’t thought about that. I’ll have to see how that goes but I’ve
> already put more time into this than I should have so this is the last
> shot before it’s back to XP and some time to catch up on the other
> projects.
Ok, your brother doesn’t want a dual boot Win/Linux. But your FSX
VirtualBox vga problem was never explained clearly, so I don’t know if
its a simply fix to xorg.conf, lowering resolution in FSX or worse your
VB doesn’t support 3D.
Id you got it you could try an older version of FS on the Virtualized
Windows.
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:00:49 +0000, Will Honea thoughfully wrote:
>
>> Zebulon888 wrote:
>>
>>> You could also give VMware Player 3.0.1 a chance. It has 3D support, or
>>> try a xen setup.
>>
>> I hadn’t thought about that. I’ll have to see how that goes but I’ve
>> already put more time into this than I should have so this is the last
>> shot before it’s back to XP and some time to catch up on the other
>> projects.
>
> Ok, your brother doesn’t want a dual boot Win/Linux. But your FSX
> VirtualBox vga problem was never explained clearly, so I don’t know if
> its a simply fix to xorg.conf, lowering resolution in FSX or worse your
> VB doesn’t support 3D.
>
> Id you got it you could try an older version of FS on the Virtualized
> Windows.
You got all I got - the game reported that it could not operate the video
card. I briefly tried all the 2D/3D settings available for VBox to no
avail. It’s plain that something is trying to play games down in the
hardware - I have to have hardware virtualization enabled with a single
processor install of XP to even get the damned thing to load. Even OS/2 is
more forgiving than that in a VM. What I suspect after some research is
that the virtual video driver can’t handle some of the direct access
methods use by FS. That’s the first time I’ve run up against this but then
I’m not much on games so it wouldn’t surprise me. I remember too many
hassles with this kind of crap from years back when you either had the
exact video card or you couldn’t run a particular game due to hardware
dependencies.
I would look harder if it were my box but for a brother 1500 miles away???
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:09:24 +0000, Will Honea thoughfully wrote:
> jaster wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:00:49 +0000, Will Honea thoughfully wrote:
>>
>>> Zebulon888 wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could also give VMware Player 3.0.1 a chance. It has 3D support,
>>>> or try a xen setup.
>>>
>>> I hadn’t thought about that. I’ll have to see how that goes but I’ve
>>> already put more time into this than I should have so this is the last
>>> shot before it’s back to XP and some time to catch up on the other
>>> projects.
>>
>> Ok, your brother doesn’t want a dual boot Win/Linux. But your FSX
>> VirtualBox vga problem was never explained clearly, so I don’t know if
>> its a simply fix to xorg.conf, lowering resolution in FSX or worse your
>> VB doesn’t support 3D.
>>
>> Id you got it you could try an older version of FS on the Virtualized
>> Windows.
>
> You got all I got - the game reported that it could not operate the
> video card. I briefly tried all the 2D/3D settings available for VBox
> to no avail. It’s plain that something is trying to play games down in
> the hardware - I have to have hardware virtualization enabled with a
> single processor install of XP to even get the damned thing to load.
> Even OS/2 is more forgiving than that in a VM. What I suspect after
> some research is that the virtual video driver can’t handle some of the
> direct access methods use by FS. That’s the first time I’ve run up
> against this but then I’m not much on games so it wouldn’t surprise me.
> I remember too many hassles with this kind of crap from years back when
> you either had the exact video card or you couldn’t run a particular
> game due to hardware dependencies.
>
> I would look harder if it were my box but for a brother 1500 miles
> away???
Then there’s the issue of memory allocated for the VB, was it enough to
run FSX?
There’s no way xp in vbox or vmware will run FSX at anything approaching usability. Vmware 3D support is still limited, might work for simpler openGL apps, but not for MS heavy stuff.
Your only viable option is dual booting XP and openSUSE, using XP for gaming only. OpenSUSE takes care of the rest.
>
> There’s no way xp in vbox or vmware will run FSX at anything approaching
> usability. Vmware 3D support is still limited, might work for simpler
> openGL apps, but not for MS heavy stuff.
>
> Your only viable option is dual booting XP and openSUSE, using XP for
> gaming only. OpenSUSE takes care of the rest.
A useful discussion - thanks all. My brother had to replace a failed hard
drive and put a 500 GB one in, so he has enough room and then some so the
dual boot solution it is - but he’s going to have to live with grub on boot
with default to openSUSE 11.2.
And he’s going to have to show up out here with copious quantities of an
acceptable beverage for all the headaches this thing has given me!
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:39:57 GMT, Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>brunomcl wrote:
>
>>
>> There’s no way xp in vbox or vmware will run FSX at anything approaching
>> usability. Vmware 3D support is still limited, might work for simpler
>> openGL apps, but not for MS heavy stuff.
>>
>> Your only viable option is dual booting XP and openSUSE, using XP for
>> gaming only. OpenSUSE takes care of the rest.
>
>A useful discussion - thanks all. My brother had to replace a failed hard
>drive and put a 500 GB one in, so he has enough room and then some so the
>dual boot solution it is - but he’s going to have to live with grub on boot
>with default to openSUSE 11.2.
>
>And he’s going to have to show up out here with copious quantities of an
>acceptable beverage for all the headaches this thing has given me!
Yes, have him see to it there is enough to enjoy on many different days.
> Yes, have him see to it there is enough to enjoy on many different days.
Well, now he’s promised access to a couple of Citabrias so that we can both
renew our acquaintance with aerobatics and formation flying. I guess that
will suffice. I need to get away from keyboards and monitors for a while!
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:28:47 +0000, Will Honea wrote for every to trash:
> JosephKK wrote:
>
>> Yes, have him see to it there is enough to enjoy on many different
>> days.
>
> Well, now he’s promised access to a couple of Citabrias so that we can
> both renew our acquaintance with aerobatics and formation flying. I
> guess that will suffice. I need to get away from keyboards and monitors
> for a while!