Flash sound again

Hi
Using 12.1 with all updates done.
Firefox is 15.0.1 and have been running this same setup since a bit after 12.1 release. All has been running quite happily and then an update ( i do not know which one ) seems to have knocked out the flash sound. that is audio on youtube, all other sound remains ok.
Been two days of mucking about tried earlier flash versions, lots of stuff like.asoundrc files and mucked round with sound config.
Tried gnash and sound works, but will not look at some videos.
Tried lightspark, sound works, controls do not. again some videos blank.
Returned to latest flash and all videos display and controls all ok but no sound.
Finally some progress. Logged in as user as I normally do, open a terminal, change to su and then run firefox from command, and sound works.
User is in audio group and pulse access group.
Do not know where to go next.
Any help appreciated though will now be tomorrow before continuing.
This has driven me to drink and off for a small libation or six.
Thanks for any replies.

No issues here
But I’m 12.2

Are you certain this is a flash issue, and not instead a pulse-audio/browser issue. Do you obtain sound from your browser when playing back mp4 files ? When playing back any other audio files with the browser ?

Have you checked your browser audio settings with ‘pulse audio volume control’ (pavucontrol) ? pavucontrol is not installed by default on openSUSE KDE installations and needs to be installed there. I documented some pulse audio volume control basics here in this blog entry: Pulseaudio Basics for openSUSE with pavucontrol - Blogs - openSUSE Forums

Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
I believe it to be flash as removing flash and using gnash plays the sound from the same location.
I do get sound from playing other files. a good example is from this site Capital Account — RT Programs and picking a programme the sound works and these seem to be mp4,
for the same show on Capital Account - YouTube no sound?
I have installed pavucontrol and this looks ok to me.
As I have said the sound setup is ok for other apps and is not changed when using a flash alternative which then has sound.
The other major point is if I start firefox from command line as root the youtube version again works correctly which would seem to say permisions somewhere.
Any suggestions for approach? Thanks

I had sound in all those.
Are you using KDE?

Hi Cat,
Yes been on KDE from install of 12.1.Sound on youtube was fine up to 3 days back.I accepted approx 30 updates that morning so think that one of them has changed something.
The sound went off where it had been running in AM. tried reboots etc The same problems occur from Konq so I believed flash to be issue, then searched for similar probs and tried everything.
Thanks

You need to check your sound settings in kde’s system settings > multimedia > Phonon

How many sound devices do you have?

If you have 2 or more, you need to set the ‘Prefer’ option in each area of Phonon
And make sure you are pointing to the same device as is set as Primary sound device in Yast

Hi,
Two cards in yast
82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller

  • Configured as sound card number 0
  • Driver snd-hda-intel

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nVidia Corporation
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  • Configured as sound card number 1
  • Driver snd-hda-intel

HDaudio set as primary card, both cards pulse enabled.

Phonon settings

All audio playback sections as

  • Internal Audio Analog Stereo
  • GF110 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)

audio recording has many more devices, do these impact?

  • HDA Intel (ALC888 Analog)
  • HDA Intel, ALC888 Analog (Default Audio Device)
  • Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server)
  • HDA Intel (ALC888 Digital)

Phonon audio hardware setup is set to GF110 and when I have tried to change this to internal audio it reverts back to this setting. Is this a problem? it has been set this way for a long time and has worked ok.

In pavucontrol both devices show same in config tab and listed as output devices with same vol levels .

Any probs there? Thanks for the help

I can’t make much sense of what you posted. But I almost guarantee your problem is down to audio settings in kde system settings multimedia and or kmix
And possibly also in Yast > Sound and which device is set a primary.

Unfortunately I can’t get my sticky mitts on your machine, so you’ll just have to figure it out.

hi,
sorry about the post , formatting went off somewhere, I like that you can edit post these days.
may be a bit more intelligible now?
The hardware setting for phonon has always bothered me a bit, it will not allow me to change to point to internal card. The hdmi device is part of the nvidea card and I do not know if it can be disabled.
Cheers

Please post the result of

/sbin/lspci -nnk

Phonon audio hardware setup is set to GF110 and when I have tried to change this to internal audio it reverts back to this setting

Umm…

I can’t just look at this right now, I’m in a Gnome system
As soon as I can, I’ll check this for you.

Results
dave@MeanMachine:~> /sbin/lspci -nnk
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82P965/G965 Memory Controller Hub [8086:29a0] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5000]
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82P965/G965 PCI Express Root Port [8086:29a1] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1a.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:2834] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 [8086:2835] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 [8086:283a] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5006]
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:a002]
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 [8086:283f] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 [8086:2845] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.4 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 [8086:2847] (rev 02)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:2830] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:2831] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:2832] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 [8086:2836] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5006]
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev f2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801HB/HR (ICH8/R) LPC Interface Controller [8086:2810] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5001]
00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller [8086:2820] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:b002]
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller [8086:283e] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5001]
Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
00:1f.5 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller [8086:2825] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:b002]
Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 570 HD] [10de:1086] (rev a1)
Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device [1462:2571]
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation GF110 High Definition Audio Controller [10de:0e09] (rev a1)
Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device [1462:2571]
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
03:00.0 SATA controller [0106]: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller [197b:2363] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard [1458:b000]
Kernel driver in use: ahci
03:00.1 IDE interface [0101]: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller [197b:2363] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard [1458:b000]
Kernel driver in use: pata_jmicron
05:01.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI [1814:0301]
Subsystem: Linksys WMP54G ver 4.1 [1737:0055]
Kernel driver in use: rt61pci
dave@MeanMachine:~> ^C
dave@MeanMachine:~>

So your 2 audio devices use the same driver, so we can’t blacklist one

00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 02)
        Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:a002]
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation GF110 High Definition Audio Controller [10de:0e09] (rev a1)
        Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device [1462:2571]
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

As soon as I can, I’ll look in to this other setting. But it may not be until early AM Sunday (UK)

Hi,
I am also UK so at least in same timezone which is easier.
Thanks again for your help and will return tomorrow.
Cheers

he hardware setting for phonon has always bothered me a bit, it will not allow me to change to point to internal card.

This shouldn’t happen
But I’ll fiddle with my machine that has 2 audio devices and see what I get

OK
I checked this and my system lets me manage the setting to my preferred device, whichever that might be.

Hi,
Within phonon hardware setup now points to HDMI. I change this to internal audio, apply or ok. re open phonon and has reverted to HDMI.
No errors or problems about my selection just reverts back to previou setting.
Tried from login as root also and does the same.

root a different user and you should do it as root anyway.

Test a new user. You’ll need to create one, just for the test.

*Is it possible to switch completely to the the other audio device?

Hi,
Thanks for your help here but I have about given up, yeah easily discouraged. I will try to get myself organised and then re install on 12.2.
That will probably sort this out though I will then get a bunch of other niggly bits and take a month to get back to a comfy environment.
Could well go back to gnome at same time. Used gnome from v10 through to 11.3 and I prefer the desktop, and then prefer many of the kde apps.
Certainly the system continues to improve across many areas and thanks for all those developers and the forum support guys as well.
Cheers