/etc/SuSE-release still saying 'OpenSUSE 12.1' after enabling Tumbleweed

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Hi everyone,
I’ve a little question.
I’ve enabled Tumbleweed from a fresh 12.1 installation, following the From 12.1 to Tumbleweed guide, and I think all is fine (not many packages updating right now, but Tumbleweed is still kinda empty, so I thought it was normal).
I’ve also done via Yast2 the Switch System packages to Tumbleweed thing.

After that, I’d like to see if my system is now OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and no more OpenSUSE 12.1, as it’s supposed to be, but output of
cat /etc/SuSE-release
is:

fra@linux-22uv:~> cat /etc/SuSE-release 
openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64)
VERSION = 12.1
CODENAME = Asparagus

is it right or have i done something wrong?

And just because I’m here I ask you something else: having Firefox 8 and KDE 4.7.3 to be inserted in Tumbleweed repo is just a matter of time, am i right?

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On 2011-11-21 02:16, frasmog wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I’ve a little question.
> I’ve enabled Tumbleweed from a fresh 12.1 installation, following the

Ask in the tumbleweed forum, not here :slight_smile:

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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ups, sorry i didn’t see the tumbleweed forum… can an admin move it there? just not to open 2 threads on the same problem.

thx and sorry again.

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*Howdy Partner! Welcome to the Tumbleweed](http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/tumbleweed/) forum.

Once you set the repos accordingly, all ya need to do is zypper along at your leisure to receive available updates & upgrades.

Links:
Tumbleweed build status
New Users: Tumbleweed Articles and other Resources
NEW Users - openSUSE-12.1 Pre-installation - PLEASE READ*

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Wait for the Tumbleweed repo to be filled. It’s (almost) empty now.

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To answer the original question:

the contents of your /etc/SUSE-release are correct. Do a little searching/reading to understand what Tumbleweed actually is (in contrast to what people imagine it is, wish it to be or what uncritical article writers describe it to be) and you’ll understand why “OpenSUSE 12.1” is the correct identifier even though you’ve enabled the Tumbleweed repositories.

Big hint: Tumbleweed is just a layer on top of the latest current OpenSUSE release, not an independent entity. In its current incarnation I think of Tumbleweed as a mashup of OpenSUSE updates (on steroids) and something resembling Debian backports (Debian Backports). Tumbleweed is nice, but not really what you think it is if you take the “rolling release” label at face value.

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That output is correct same as the steps you did to have Tumbleweed enabled. For the moment the Tumbleweed repo is empty but in time it will get filled and you will have plenty of updates while running sudo zypper refresh followed by sudo zypper dup. Since Tumbleweed uses as base openSUSE 12.1 (latest stable version) you could enable the 12.1 Firefox repo and get Firefox 8. I want to upgrade to KDE 4.7.3 but the addresses from the repo have issues at least 2 of them (core packages and extra)… so have patience a bit .

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Thanks to everyone for your answers! :slight_smile: They have clarified me a lot about Tumbleweed!
Firefox have upgraded to v.8 yesterday without the insertion of any repository, and for KDE 4.7.3, I’m going to wait for it to be inserted :slight_smile:

thank you guys!

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On 2011-11-22 00:36, c0d3g33k wrote:
>
> To answer the original question:
>
> the contents of your /etc/SUSE-release are correct. Do a little
> searching/reading to understand what Tumbleweed actually is (in contrast
> to what people imagine it is, wish it to be or what uncritical article
> writers describe it to be) and you’ll understand why “OpenSUSE 12.1” is
> the correct identifier even though you’ve enabled the Tumbleweed
> repositories.

I think it should say some thing like “12.1 plus tumbleweed”.

You are right in what you say, but it is also no longer a plain 12.1, it
has issues of its own.

With its own forum! :wink:

It deserves also a clearer identification string.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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On 11/22/2011 01:33 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> It deserves also a clearer identification string.

agree, mine looks like this:


denverd@linux-os114:~> cat /etc/SuSE-release
openSUSE 11.4 (i586)
VERSION = 11.4 without Tumbleweed, Factory, Playground or Unstable adds
CODENAME = Celadon
denverd@linux-os114:~>

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DD:)

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But you edited it yourself… I thought it’d be edited automatically after the first zypper dup. :slight_smile:

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LOL…

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> But you edited it yourself…

yep! you can too!!

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DD

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After an upgrade that file will be overwritten :slight_smile:

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> After an upgrade that file will be overwritten :slight_smile:

and, i’ll just restore it from backup!! :slight_smile:

or, otherwise re-create it!! :wink:

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DD

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On 2011-11-25 21:59, DenverD wrote:
> or, otherwise re-create it!!

I think you should not. That file /might/ be used in scripts parsing it.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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>> or, otherwise re-create it!!
> I think you should not. That file /might/ be used in scripts parsing it.

hmmmm…i had not thought of that–thanks!!

(there is a benefit to having real Gurus around!!)

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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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On 2011-11-28 14:52, DenverD wrote:
>>> or, otherwise re-create it!!
>> I think you should not. That file /might/ be used in scripts parsing it.
>
> hmmmm…i had not thought of that–thanks!!

But I think you can add a new line after those, should be safe.

> (there is a benefit to having real Gurus around!!)

I don’t think I am.
I have been around Linux for a long time, that’s all :slight_smile:

In the old times, Linux had a knowledge database, the SDB. You could query
it online if you were fortunate to have internet. In it there were lots of
knowledge written by the SuSE folks, that helped us to solve problems everyday.

At first I did not have internet, or very limited. Charged per minute. But
we could download that database, and query it locally, via apache. I think
it used htdig. It was wonderful!

It was called SuSEhelp. It worked on the CLI or even with Netscape (no
mozilla then). It was the best help available, I learnt a lot from it. It
queried the SDB and the SuSE books in html, and the man pages, so I could
learn how systemV worked :wink:

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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I’ve seen some scripts around that parse that file indeed. can’t recall which was the purpose of those scripts thou.

Anyhow, I’m still seeing around people speaking about Tumbleweed as a distinct version, like Factory i may say… also on the opensuse main website… strange…

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On 2011-12-01 02:26, frasmog wrote:
> Anyhow, I’m still seeing around people speaking about Tumbleweed as a
> distinct version, like Factory i may say… also on the opensuse main
> website… strange…

I do consider it a separate version. It is listed as such in the openSUSE
site, as you have seen. However, it is not independent, it needs another
version to install first. So, a mixture.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)