Effects of a XP Repair ??

Hello

It appears I’ll need to do a repair of my games partition, i.e. XP, using the XP installation disc. Before doing it, I like to know if doing that, if the ‘Grub’ will be deleted ?

I want to avoid having to do a re-install of Suse due to loosing the boot menu in Grub.

Thank you

On 2014-04-18 04:56, mhunt0 wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> It appears I’ll need to do a repair of my games partition, i.e. XP,
> using the XP installation disc. Before doing it, I like to know if
> doing that, if the ‘Grub’ will be deleted ?

Probably.
It can even destroy the entire disk.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

… no wonder I hate Windows…

You do know XP is dead… why bother…

:wink: Well, I would guess that to some people, this would be important (though not to me):

On 2014-04-18 07:56, Fraser Bell wrote:
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> caf4926;2637656 Wrote:
>> You do know XP is dead… why bother…
>
> :wink: Well, I would guess that to some people, this would be important
> (-though not to me-):
>
> mhunt0;2637645 Wrote:
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>> … my games partition …

There is no reason not to keep using XP, if you have software you
need/like (example, a game), as long as you disable internet, and
perhaps also local networking. And do not install anything more, and be
extra careful with “data” media you bring in.

There are people using Linux versions as old as that.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

On 2014-04-18 05:26, mhunt0 wrote:
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> … no wonder I hate Windows…

To clarify.

The install DVD from Windows 7, the real one made by Microsoft, allows
you to install on any partition and not touch the rest. An OEM disk may
do anything, at the choosing of its manufacturer, not necessarily your
choices. The recovery media of my laptop destroys every partition,
leaving the computer in the status it was when I bought it.

And that is W 7, which is more modern, and aware that you may wish to
install other systems - although they expect those other systems to be
other Windows. With Windows XP, I simply do not remember, but I do
remember many disaster histories of people lamenting they had lost their
Linux after installing Windows. Often it was just Lilo/grub, but not always.

So, you do need to make a good full backup of your Linux,. in a manner
that you can be sure to recover anything. To prepare for the worst, even
if it doesn’t come to that.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

It’s a games partition, I play multiplayer games like DCU Online there, the only thing I remember doing before this was installing Chrome as sometimes I open the browser to search for game info, I can only think it was Chrome that messed up the XP.

As far as I read online there’s no driver for my GPU (Radeon 4670) that works for W7 and since it’s just a game partition I don’t mind keeping XP where the driver works perfectly.

I suppose I’ll do a full re-install. I think that If I do a full install of XP, the Suse partitions won’t be touched but Grub will be lost. I searched here for ‘restoring grub’ some links are broken and other suggest I do a ‘repair’ from the Suse disc.

I wish it just have a ‘restore Grub’ since it seems something that happens to several people.

If it doesn’t work, guess I’ll repeat the Suse installation after XP.

But your existing XP is updated? Hopefully it’s legal too.

A new install can no longer be updated AFAIK

yes, it’s a legal one, I have a Dell, it came with W2k, I later bough an XP disc from them (last year), it’s a Dell installation disc, all other drivers for my pc are downloaded form the Dell website using your customer number where they have your hardware specs. Since the Dell XP disc is rather recent , it comes with SP3, I only had to update the browser and install the ‘Security Essentials’.

I didn’t think they did MSE for XP. And it was being phased out last thing I heard.

I play multiplayer games like DCU Online
Um. Bad idea
But I guess you could remove all personal info/files/browsers etc from the install and let it crash and burn or whatever…

On 2014-04-18 17:16, mhunt0 wrote:
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> It’s a games partition, I play multiplayer games like DCU Online there,
> the only thing I remember doing before this was installing Chrome as
> sometimes I open the browser to search for game info, I can only think
> it was Chrome that messed up the XP.

After you reinstall that XP, keep it frozen. Do not install anything
more. Remove any browser, don’t ever browse with it. Use a different
system for that. Even more, remove the network cable.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

The MSE did install and worked.

Yes, when I make the re-installation of XP I won’t install anything more, but it’s for MM games and they use/need the web, otherwise, no point in having Xp or any other Windows partition.

Those games don’t even need to be installed, you can back up the game dir (20GB O.O ) and then just copied back and it’ll run and update it’s content, just like PWI (Perfect World International -8 GB) the other game I play.

While trying to rescue XP, I used a tool to clear all browser info, like cookies, temp files, etc… it was clean. If I log on in ‘safe mode’ (XP) there’s no freezing, so I know it’s some component of XP that got damaged.

I already did a virus scan from Suse with ‘clam’ and it came up clean.

If I recall correctly, I believe it can be updated to the latest updates to EOL.:\

True, it can update to the latest, MSE also updates.

On Fri 18 Apr 2014 06:06:01 PM CDT, Fraser Bell wrote:

caf4926;2637753 Wrote:
> But your existing XP is updated? Hopefully it’s legal too.
>
> A new install can no longer be updated AFAIK

If I recall correctly, I believe it can be updated to the latest updates
to EOL.:\

Hi
Yes, you can always download the dvd as well and do updates offline;
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42220

And if your in China, rock on using it… just talk to Lenovo and some
other company who are offering (free?) support and maybe even updates.


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thanks!

I did a full re-installation. Took some time, it’s straightforward with no issues , just long… 480 updates after the base installation of Suse O.o, then the configuring of Suse for better performance (i.e remove indexers, auto updaters and pulseaudio) and finally install the 6 applications that I use for work.

all up and running…

thanks for the help. :slight_smile: