Does snapshot 20240629 propose to remove kwin6?

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This is part of my dup output today:

The following package is going to be REMOVED:
  kwin6  6.1.1-1.1  x86_64  openSUSE

If I try to accept this snapshot update, I’m immediately logged out

I dunno if something’s wrong with my installation or with this snapshot.

But if it was with the snapshot I guess this forum would be full of threads about this, right?

So what’s wrong?

Thanks

Edit: this is what kwin6 looks like:

sudo zypper se --details kwin6 
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

S  | Name        | Type    | Version     | Arch   | Repository
---+-------------+---------+-------------+--------+------------------------
i+ | kwin6       | package | 6.1.1-1.1   | x86_64 | (System Packages)
i+ | kwin6       | package | 6.1.1.2-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss
   | kwin6-devel | package | 6.1.1.2-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss
   | kwin6-lang  | package | 6.1.1.2-1.1 | noarch | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss
i+ | kwin6-x11   | package | 6.1.1-1.1   | x86_64 | (System Packages)
v  | kwin6-x11   | package | 6.1.1.2-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss
i+ | libkwin6    | package | 6.1.1-1.1   | x86_64 | (System Packages)
v  | libkwin6    | package | 6.1.1.2-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss

No idea what (System Packages) means as a repo.

sudo zypper repos
Repository priorities in effect:                                                                                                                                                  (See 'zypper lr -P' for details)
      70 (raised priority)  :  1 repository
      99 (default priority) :  6 repositories

#  | Alias               | Name                                   | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh
---+---------------------+----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+--------
 1 | Insync              | Insync                                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
 2 | home_pzz            | home:pzz (openSUSE_Tumbleweed)         | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
 3 | openSUSE-20231028-0 | openSUSE-20231028-0                    | No      | ----      | ----
 4 | packman             | Packman                                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
 5 | repo-debug          | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug              | No      | ----      | ----
 6 | repo-non-oss        | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
 7 | repo-openh264       | Open H.264 Codec (openSUSE Tumbleweed) | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
 8 | repo-oss            | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
 9 | repo-source         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source             | No      | ----      | ----
10 | repo-update         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes
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Why not showing the complete output of sudo zypper dup?

System packages mean, this package was installed from a repository which is no longer available on your system.

Zypper wants to remove kwin6-6.1.1-1.1 (orphaned package) as you still have kwin6-6.1.1.2-1.1 (actual version) installed.

If you get “logged out” whilst updating sounds like that you don’t do the update from a terminal session. This was already explained several time in the forum.

Btw the output from sudo zypper repos is nearly useless as it omits the most important information: the URL. Always use sudo zypper lr -d to show a repo list.

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Hi @hui ,

thanks for your reply.

Here’s the full zypper dup output

sudo zypper dup --details
[sudo] password for root: 
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
Computing distribution upgrade...

The following 8 items are locked and will not be changed by any action:
 Available:
  insync-caja insync-headless insync-nautilus insync-nemo insync-thunar
 Installed:
  insync               3.8.6.50504-fc39  x86_64  @System  Insync
  insync-dolphin       3.7.9.50368-1     noarch  @System  Insync
  insync-emblem-icons  3.4.2.40983-1     noarch  @System  @e73ead5e6ad0

The following 66 packages are going to be upgraded:
  cpupower                           6.9.6-8.8 -> 6.9.7-8.9                             x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  cpupower-bash-completion           6.9.6-8.8 -> 6.9.7-8.9                             noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  gmic-data                          3.4.0-1.1 -> 3.4.0-1.2                             noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  kvm_stat                           6.9.6-23.18 -> 6.9.7-23.19                         noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  kwin6-x11                          6.1.1-1.1 -> 6.1.1.2-1.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libcpupower1                       6.9.6-8.8 -> 6.9.7-8.9                             x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libgbm1                            24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libgbm-devel                       24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libgmic3                           3.4.0-1.1 -> 3.4.0-1.2                             x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libkwin6                           6.1.1-1.1 -> 6.1.1.2-1.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libpipewire-0_3-0                  1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libpython3_10-1_0                  3.10.14-2.1 -> 3.10.14-3.1                         x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libvdpau_r600                      24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libvdpau_radeonsi                  24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libvlc5                            3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libvlccore9                        3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libvulkan_radeon                   24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  libwireplumber-0_5-0               0.5.3+git11.4868b3c-1.1 -> 0.5.4+git2.96dc045-1.1  x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa                               24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-dri                           24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-dri-devel                     24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-gallium                       24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-KHR-devel                     24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-libEGL1                       24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-libEGL-devel                  24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-libGL1                        24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-libglapi0                     24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-libGL-devel                   24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-libva                         24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  Mesa-vulkan-device-select          24.1.2-382.1 -> 24.1.2-383.1                       x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  openssh                            9.6p1-9.1 -> 9.6p1-11.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  openSUSE
  openssh-askpass-gnome              9.6p1-9.1 -> 9.6p1-11.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  openSUSE
  openssh-clients                    9.6p1-9.1 -> 9.6p1-11.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  openSUSE
  openssh-common                     9.6p1-9.1 -> 9.6p1-11.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  openSUSE
  openssh-server                     9.6p1-9.1 -> 9.6p1-11.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  openSUSE
  openssh-server-config-rootlogin    9.6p1-9.1 -> 9.6p1-11.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  openSUSE
  openSUSE-release                   20240628-2974.1 -> 20240629-2976.1                 x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  openSUSE-release-appliance-custom  20240628-2974.1 -> 20240629-2976.1                 x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire                           1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-alsa                      1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-aptx                      1.0.1-1699.1.pm.4 -> 1.2.0-1699.1.pm.1             x86_64  Packman                     http://packman.links2linux.de
  pipewire-devel                     1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-jack                      1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-libjack-0_3               1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-modules-0_3               1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-pulseaudio                1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2           1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-spa-tools                 1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  pipewire-tools                     1.1.83-1.1 -> 1.2.0-1.1                            x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  python310                          3.10.14-2.1 -> 3.10.14-3.1                         x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  python310-base                     3.10.14-2.1 -> 3.10.14-3.1                         x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  python310-curses                   3.10.14-2.1 -> 3.10.14-3.1                         x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  python310-dbm                      3.10.14-2.1 -> 3.10.14-3.1                         x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc                                3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc-codec-gstreamer                3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc-devel                          3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc-jack                           3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc-lang                           3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc-noX                            3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc-qt                             3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  vlc-vdpau                          3.0.21-2.1 -> 3.0.21-3.1                           x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  wireplumber                        0.5.3+git11.4868b3c-1.1 -> 0.5.4+git2.96dc045-1.1  x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  wireplumber-audio                  0.5.3+git11.4868b3c-1.1 -> 0.5.4+git2.96dc045-1.1  noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  zypper                             1.14.73-1.2 -> 1.14.74-1.1                         x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  zypper-log                         1.14.73-1.2 -> 1.14.74-1.1                         noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE
  zypper-needs-restarting            1.14.73-1.2 -> 1.14.74-1.1                         noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss     openSUSE

The following product is going to be upgraded:
  openSUSE Tumbleweed  20240628-0 -> 20240629-0  x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss  openSUSE

The following 2 packages are going to be downgraded:
  python-rpm-generators  20240618.1e386da-1.1 -> 20240618.c146b29-1.1  noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss  openSUSE
  python-rpm-macros      20240618.1e386da-1.1 -> 20240618.c146b29-1.1  noarch  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss  openSUSE

The following NEW package is going to be installed:
  kernel-default  6.9.7-1.1  x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss  openSUSE

The following package is going to be REMOVED:
  kwin6  6.1.1-1.1  x86_64  openSUSE

The following package requires a system reboot:
  kernel-default  6.9.7-1.1  x86_64  openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss  openSUSE

66 packages to upgrade, 2 to downgrade, 1 new, 1 to remove.
Overall download size: 258.2 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 234.2 MiB will be used.

    Note: System reboot required.

Backend:  classic_rpmtrans
Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y):

I had forgotten to mention that after being logged out, I also tried switching to a TTY session with Ctrl Alt F and run dup from there, but once the update was installed and I rebooted, I was also being kicked out of the session right after entering my password in SDDM. So I think that for the current status of my system, this update just breaks something.

For completeness I should mention that I tried tumbleweed-cli a few days ago, but eventually it didn’t allow me to do what I wanted due to lack of older snapshot history (I wanted to isolate which update introduced a regression I’ve noticed in KDE, but the snapshot archive only goes so much back in time). So TL;DR I eventually tumbleweed-cli uninit and thought I was good at that point.

This is the only thing I can think of that might have messed with my repos.

Which by the way are as follows, with the command you suggested:

sudo zypper lr -d
[sudo] password for root: 
#  | Alias               | Name                                   | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                       | Service
---+---------------------+----------------------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+--------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
 1 | Insync              | Insync                                 | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://yum.insync.io/opensuse-tumbleweed/rolling/                         | 
 2 | home_pzz            | home:pzz (openSUSE_Tumbleweed)         | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/pzz/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ | 
 3 | openSUSE-20231028-0 | openSUSE-20231028-0                    | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | hd:/?device=/dev/disk/by-id/dm-name-ventoy                                | 
 4 | packman             | Packman                                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   70     | rpm-md | https://ftp.fau.de/packman//suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/                     | 
 5 | repo-debug          | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug              | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                   | 
 6 | repo-non-oss        | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss            | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/                     | 
 7 | repo-openh264       | Open H.264 Codec (openSUSE Tumbleweed) | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed                   | 
 8 | repo-oss            | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss                | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                         | 
 9 | repo-source         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source             | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                  | 
10 | repo-update         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update             | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/                           |

Thank you in advance for any help

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Update: I suspect that tumbleweed-cli might have deleted the original TW repo and used the one I defined with the switch command, and when I did uninit instead of somehow restoring the original TW repo it created a new one, and so now all my system packages probably show up as having originally been installed from a no-longer available repo.

If that’s the case, that’s not a great tool (or maybe I misunderstood how to uninit…)

I wonder if there’s a way to tell zypper to forcibly consider installed packages to come from a certain repo

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No. It means that the installed package version is not present in any repository defined on this system.

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Yep. Both ways are right according man zypper. It depends how you translate/interprete the man page.

If zypper search throws out “@ System” or “System package” it can mean: Repo no longer available where the package was installed from or the package version is no longer available in any known (enabled) repo.

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Somehow you managed to install new version instead of updating the installed version (i.e. removing installed version and installing new version). Having two different versions of the same package as a rule makes no sense and is usually simply not possible (because they install the same files and so will conflict with each other). So zypper suggesting removal of the obsolete version can be considered as fixing this issue.

It may have happened due to interrupting zypper (or equivalent) run before it could remove the old version.

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Thanks for your replies

Unfortunately I find myself kinda stuck in this situation now.
I even rolled back to the oldest snapshot I have (Plasma 6.0.4 from ~1 month ago), but when I prompt zypper for info about kwin6, it still spits out both versions (which is kinda scary!), and the usual (System Packages).
Notice that this snapshot is from a state where I had never installed tumbleweed-cli on my system (which only happened last week).
So at this point I dunno what caused this situation.

Is there anything I can do to restore my system quickly and without too much pain, or should I just start planning a reinstall?

Thanks

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I am not sure I understand the problem. Just let zypper to remove obsolete package version.

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Hi, the problem is that I’m unable to login after taking the update, even if I do so from a TTY session.

I’m attaching the logs corresponding to:

  • boot
  • don’t login graphically, switch to Ctrl Alt F3 instead
  • TTY login, nmtui to connect, zypper dup to update snapshot
  • reboot once update complete
  • upon reboot, try graphical login from SDDM → kicked out of session instantly and back to SDDM login

So right now there is no way for me to go past snapshot 20240628 :frowning:

I’ve collected some journalctl -b logs, with and without sudo:

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/dd1d14f9b715

https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/74b843d71a39

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hello,

You have a coredump
“Jul 02 09:50:02 andromeda systemd-coredump[2046]: Process 2040 (ksplashqml) of user 1000 dumped core.”

Can you create a new user and test the GUI with this user?

Regards

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Jul 02 09:50:02 andromeda systemd[1930]: Starting Splash screen shown during boot...
Jul 02 09:50:02 andromeda ksplashqml[2040]: Failed to create wl_display (No such file or directory)

That implies that either ksplashqml does not have access to the Wayland socket or the environment variable WAYLAND_DISPLAY is missing or incorrect. The preceding messages look OK, there are no errors. The only difference on my system is dbus-broker instead of dbus-daemon. dbus-broker is supposed to be drop-in replacement, but who knows. I think Tumbleweed switched to dbus-broker for the new installation.

I guess it does not expect missing display. Which is understandable.

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Thanks everyone, I ended up reinstalling

I retained my home partition, so after launching my app reinstall script I was good to go (plus my setup is very flatpak-y, that helps a lot)

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In English what you wrote means that a repository is no longer available, not that some package is not available, which is unlikely given the OSS repo it came from is a required base repo. What could have written to be clear would have been:

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