Hi, I am wondering why after upgrading openSUSE Tumbleweed with zypper dup even then powercycling the machine. The next login to KDE Plasma there can be and sometimes are software updates in the Discover Software Center for such things even related to Mesa packages.
Can you tell me about why this is?
Packman ???
Then why does the use of zypper dup not pull the packages in from Packman?
The configuration here currently:
zypper se -si Mesa
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository
---+---------------------------------+---------+----------------------+--------+-------------------
i | libOSMesa8 | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i | libOSMesa8-32bit | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-32bit | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i | Mesa-demo-egl | package | 9.0.0-3.3 | x86_64 | repo-oss
i | Mesa-demo-x | package | 9.0.0-3.3 | x86_64 | repo-oss
i+ | Mesa-dri | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-dri-32bit | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-gallium | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-gallium-32bit | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-libEGL1 | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-libGL1 | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-libGL1-32bit | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-libglapi0 | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-libglapi0-32bit | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-libva | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-vulkan-device-select | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
i+ | Mesa-vulkan-device-select-32bit | package | 24.3.1-1699.401.pm.1 | x86_64 | packman-essentials
flatpak list
Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
Skype com.skype.Client 8.134.0.202 stable system
Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform freedesktop-sdk-24.08.10 24.08 system
Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.3.1 24.08 system
Mesa (Extra) org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.3.1 24.08extra system
openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.4.1 2.4.1 system
Breeze GTK theme org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Breeze 6.2.5 3.22 system
The vendor is currently set to Packman for all but two of the Mesa related packages on the machine. I see with flatpak list some Mesa related things. Can you explain that a bit? 
In my experience, it does.
Yesterday, I ran “zypper dup”. After that, I ran Discover and it told me that I was up to date.
I have, on occasion, done a “zypper dup”, only to find that there were more updates available. Presumably the packman repo was updated during that time.
Packages released during the dup, indeed
Ok, so this is somewhat normal behavior from what you say. What would be wrong if anything by removing the Mesa flatpak packages (Mesa and Mesa Extra) then relying on zypper to provide them?
Possibly also open264 as it has repository http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
repo-open264 entry name is shown by zypper lr. I don’t recall going into Discover Package Manager and enabling them.
Just leave it as it is or what?
That isn’t possible. The Flatpak Mesa packages are runtimes required for flatpaks to work.
They also have nothing to do with the RPM versions.
Oh, I really did not know that.
What is the complete list of Flatpak runtimes to check for? Is it what flatpak list shows now (minus the Breeze GTK theme and Skype flatpaks)?
Thanks for the flatpak reference.
I see more clearly now I think about (runtimes required by flatpaks). On a fresh install (no prior installed flatpaks/runtimes, were shown by $ flatpak list), I installed Skype via Software Discovery center and now $ flatpak list shows:
Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
Skype com.skype.Client 8.134.0.202 stable system
Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform freedesktop-sdk-24.08.10 24.08 system
Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.3.1 24.08 system
Mesa (Extra) org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.3.1 24.08extra system
Intel VAAPI driver org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 24.08 system
openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.4.1 2.4.1 system
Breeze GTK theme org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Breeze 6.2.5 3.22 system
This was helpful, I will mark as solved now.
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