Disappearing thread

Hi,

On this thread, via nntp:


<http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=474405>

I only see post #7, no glimpse of the other six posts. Where are they?

And there is no notice that the thread was moved, that I can see :-?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: No package for update - hdjmod
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:26:02 GMT
From: neilsgrayson <neilsgrayson@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
Organization: forums.opensuse.org
Newsgroups: opensuse.org.help.applications
References: <vinoman2.5b0mhc@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> <vinoman2.5b1dso@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
<afshine.5b2540@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> <vinoman2.5b2a7c@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
<vinoman2.5b4wnc@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> <afshine.5b5y5c@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>

Still no update on this bug?


neilsgrayson

neilsgrayson’s Profile: http://forums.opensuse.org/member.php?userid=69214
View this thread: http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=474405

I can view the whole thread, no problems as far as I can see.

Edit:
Sorry, did not read this post carefully, I am viewing this from a browser if that makes any difference? I don’t know what nntp is.

On 2012-08-09 04:16, F Sauce wrote:
>
> I can view the whole thread, no problems as far as I can see.Edit:Sorry,
> did not read this post carefully, I am viewing this from a browser if
> that makes any difference?

A lot.

> I don’t know what nntp is.

News interface. The FAQ explains it. I see the forum with thunderbird.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 “Asparagus” GM (bombadillo))

Okay:)

Cheers

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:01:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On this thread, via nntp:
>
>


> <http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=474405>
> 

>
> I only see post #7, no glimpse of the other six posts. Where are they?
>
> And there is no notice that the thread was moved, that I can see :-?

It wasn’t move, the posts are on the server. But the previous post’s
date is April, so chances are your newsreader and/or local server have
expired the articles.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

On 08/09/2012 04:55 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:

> It wasn’t move, the posts are on the server. But the previous post’s
> date is April, so chances are your newsreader and/or local server have
> expired the articles.

and, all eight posts available here in TBird v14.0…

so i guess it may be a bug in TB’s online>offline>online coding…

or maybe they got wiped out by an accidental “Delete” button press
(before, he and i reset TB to require confirmation before dumping)…

or, i’ve seen reports of lost emails lately <http://tinyurl.com/c6o2al6>
and if TB can lose mail i guess it could nntp posts also…

i may try KMail (or [al]pine)…


dd

dd@home.dk wrote:
> On 08/09/2012 04:55 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> It wasn’t move, the posts are on the server. But the previous post’s
>> date is April, so chances are your newsreader and/or local server have
>> expired the articles.
>
> and, all eight posts available here in TBird v14.0…

All 8 posts are visible in my old TBird too, so AFAICT there’s no
reproduction of the alleged fault yet …

So could also be any kind of local problem.

On 2012-08-09 04:55, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:01:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> It wasn’t move, the posts are on the server. But the previous post’s
> date is April, so chances are your newsreader and/or local server have
> expired the articles.

Argh! April! I didn’t notice that. I looked at “2012” and assumed that would be enough. I’m using a
test install of 12.1, using just Thunderbird without leafnode. Thunderbird downloaded “just” 2500
headers and apparently that’s not enough on some subforums. :-}

My fault then.

Huh? hold on… Thunderbird is showing posts from 2009 in the application subforum! Why would it
expire posts from April this year, then?

Even weirder. I have many posts from 2009 (not all, probably), none from 2010 and 2011, and then
2012 from May on.

So, it is not my fault, after all…

Is there a way to tell Thunderbird to fetch headers it did not pick before?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 “Asparagus” GM (bombadillo))

On 2012-08-09 10:52, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Even weirder. I have many posts from 2009 (not all, probably), none from 2010 and 2011, and then
> 2012 from May on.

And not only in the application subforum. In the boot-login one, posts start in 2008-06 till -07,
then 2009-02 til -03, then 2012 since 2012-05

Isn’t it weird?

It has not picked the last 2500 headers. Who knows what algorithm it has used… or is it the nntp
server which does the choosing?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 “Asparagus” GM (bombadillo))

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> It has not picked the last 2500 headers. Who knows what algorithm it
has used… or is it the nntp
> server which does the choosing?

TB sometimes asks me how many headers and/or messages to download. I
always just tell it ‘download everything’ whenever it asks.

I think if you ‘manage subscriptions’ you may have the opportunity to
tweak settings.

On 2012-08-09 11:06, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > It has not picked the last 2500 headers. Who knows what algorithm it
> has used… or is it the nntp
>> server which does the choosing?
>
> TB sometimes asks me how many headers and/or messages to download. I
> always just tell it ‘download everything’ whenever it asks.

Well, my ADSL is just 1 Mb, and my disk space in this test partition is limited: 15 GiB for all (no
home partition). It takes a long time to download all.

> I think if you ‘manage subscriptions’ you may have the opportunity to
> tweak settings.

For future subscriptions to groups, not current ones. I can not trigger a download of previous
messages headers (or any message header).


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 “Asparagus” GM (bombadillo))

On 08/09/2012 11:44 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I can not trigger a download of previous
> messages headers (or any message header).

its been like that for a very long time in TB…

that is, the only time you get a chance to pick how many headers you
collect is when first populating the newly subscribed groups…

however, if you delete that account with all its subscribe groups, and
then start over with a different account name, then you will trigger
another “initial” session…


dd

On 2012-08-09 13:20, dd@home.dk wrote:
> On 08/09/2012 11:44 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> however, if you delete that account with all its subscribe groups, and then start over with a
> different account name, then you will trigger another “initial” session…

Indeed. I unintentionally did that when I changed from foums.novell to forums.opensuse some half an
hour ago. It is a pain in the back! It resets all read posts to unread, it clears the “watched
thread” marks…

It doesn’t matter very much, as this 12.1 system is temporary and I’ll go back to my main system
(11.4) which I intend to upgrade to 12.1. There I use leafnode and I can store thousands of posts
and get anyone instantly. Or even change up-server without consequences.

Hibernation is working fine here (finally), so my remaining hurdle is mounting encrypted partitions.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 “Asparagus” GM (bombadillo))