Dial-up modem problem

After using SUSE 10.0 for a couple of years, I decided to try the new 11.1 version. Trouble is, I cant get my modem to work. It is listed correctly in the hardware, as a US Robotics 5610B internal, Yast sets it up as /dev/modem, and I used wvdialconf to identify the ttyS4, and set a link from there to /dev/modem. Trouble is, there’s no dialer. I can’t find pppconfig, KPPP, kinternet, or even wvdial. I even had to come here using Windows. Is anyone else still using dial-up?? Help!

Robi2 wrote:

> After using SUSE 10.0 for a couple of years, I decided to try the new
> 11.1 version. Trouble is, I cant get my modem to work. It is listed
> correctly in the hardware, as a US Robotics 5610B internal, Yast sets it
> up as /dev/modem, and I used wvdialconf to identify the ttyS4, and set a
> link from there to /dev/modem. Trouble is, there’s no dialer. I can’t
> find pppconfig, KPPP, kinternet, or even wvdial. I even had to come here
> using Windows. Is anyone else still using dial-up?? Help!

All these dialer applications can be easily installed (if they are still
not… I guess “wvdial” must be there) from YaST and using the
standard /oss repository.

Greetings,


Camaleón

Ok - I got it to work on the 3rd reinstall of OpenSUSE 11.1. I was able to install kinternet from the KDE 3 list; it’s not in KDE 4.
That being done I was able to dial out and get online. Thanks for your reply.:slight_smile:

Now that I got kinternet dialer to work once, I find that each time I re boot SUSE 11.1 I first have to reconfigure the link from /dev/ttyS4 to /dev/modem, before the dialer will work. Yast’s modem configuration routine automatically sets the device to /dev/modem and does not offer ttyS4. Available devices stop at ttyS3. Oddly, I believe the modem was identified as ttyS2 in SUSE 10, and that always worked fine. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Robi2 wrote:

> Now that I got kinternet dialer to work once, I find that each time I re
> boot SUSE 11.1 I first have to reconfigure the link from /dev/ttyS4 to
> /dev/modem, before the dialer will work. Yast’s modem configuration
> routine automatically sets the device to /dev/modem and does not offer
> ttyS4. Available devices stop at ttyS3. Oddly, I believe the modem was
> identified as ttyS2 in SUSE 10, and that always worked fine. Any ideas
> would be appreciated.

Mmm, I am not sure, but IIRC kinternet uses (or used to use :-P) the
settings defined in wvdial (/etc/wvdial.conf). Just check if this file is
pointing to /dev/ttyS4 device instead of /dev/modem.

Greetings,


Camaleón

It took, not one, not two but three dvd copies of the Suse v11.1 from OSDisc.com - just to get v11.1 installed! The first two copies were so defective, were it not for the time lost, it’d be funny bu to give OSDic.com credit, at least they tried, they had to be pushed but the time lost with those first two dvds and trying to get them to work was such that it was just unacceptable and it has to some extent made you at Suse look bad!

As for the problem under discussion, it appears that I may have the same problem … and with the thought in mind that I am not a programmer, rather an “end user” and as your answer to the above problem is essentially meaningless to me, I ask you, after getting Open Suse v11.1 installed and finding that the dialer program(s) are missing (if I can’t get on the Internet with Suse v11.1 the software is essentially useless to me), can you or someone else there advise me - step by step - just what has to be done to make this Suse v11.1 work? Keep in mind, as with the user who started this thread, I to have had Suse v10.0 for years and for the most part it has worked very well - but the problems with installing v11.1 were just unbelievably bad and unacceptable; probably due to the poor quality dvds as supplied by OSDisc.com.

tyc

tyc wrote:

> As for the problem under discussion, it appears that I may have the
> same problem … and with the thought in mind that I am not a
> programmer, rather an “end user” and as your answer to the above problem
> is essentially meaningless to me, I ask you, after getting Open Suse
> v11.1 installed and finding that the dialer program(s) are missing (if I
> can’t get on the Internet with Suse v11.1 the software is essentially
> useless to me), can you or someone else there advise me - step by step -
> just what has to be done to make this Suse v11.1 work?

First, there are some dialers available for opensuse 11.1.

  • wvdial it’s a command line but very simple to use and setup utility
  • kppp is a GUI for pppd available for kde4 (IIRC)
  • kinternet is a GUI for pppd available for kde3

You can find those applications by searching for “dial” in yast :-).

How to configure them? Well, kppp and kinternet are both self-explanatory
(they are graphical tools) and wvdial has it’s manual page (man wvdial).

Greetings,


Camaleón

ok I am now using wvdial and it seems to work. But I have some final observations here - That is, 1. kinternet doesn’t work right in SUSE 11.1; 2. KPPP has been left out and the version I downloaded will not give me the needed permissions, so it’s useless; 3.pppconfig is not included (works fine in all other distros); and 4.Gnome doesn’t seem to include a dialer atall. If I was a newby I’d say it was just my lack of knowledge but I have used most major linux distros for several years. Mandrake 5.2 anyone?

So it seems like Novell has gone out of their way to make life difficult. Wonder why. Oh, well…

Robi2 wrote:

> ok I am now using wvdial and it seems to work.

Glad to hear that. Good apps never die :slight_smile:

> But I have some final
> observations here - That is, 1. kinternet doesn’t work right in SUSE
> 11.1; 2. KPPP has been left out and the version I downloaded will not
> give me the needed permissions, so it’s useless; 3.pppconfig is not
> included (works fine in all other distros); and 4.Gnome doesn’t seem to
> include a dialer atall. If I was a newby I’d say it was just my lack of
> knowledge but I have used most major linux distros for several years.
> Mandrake 5.2 anyone?
>
> So it seems like Novell has gone out of their way to make life
> difficult. Wonder why. Oh, well…

I think the tendency is using networkmanager to handle all kind of dialer
connections (let’s say dial-up modems, adsl modems and umts/gprs modems).

Anyway, if you don’t like so much netwokmanager, just investigate a bit why
those apps (kinternet and kppp) are failing because both are (or have to
be) supported by openSUSE :wink:

Greetings,


Camaleón