Desktop Updater Applet Does not work correctly.

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Hello:

When using the desktop applet for updating I get the error
“A security trust relationship is not present A security trust relationship could not be made with the software origin.
Please check your software signature settings.”

SO I tried manually:

Running in terminal:


linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper ref
Repository 'Libdvdcss' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Repository 'Packman-Tumbleweed' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Repository 'Plex' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Repository 'KDE:Extra' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-oss' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
All repositories have been refreshed.
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following 56 package updates will NOT be installed:
  chromium cln digikam digikam-doc digikam-lang dolphin-plugin-checksum fdupes gtk2-metatheme-breeze gtk3-metatheme-breeze kcheckhash kernel-default-4.10.4-1.3 kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-lang konversation konversation-lang kshutdown ktp-accounts-kcm lensfun-data libdigikamcore5 libepub0
  libhdf4 libhdf5-100 libhdf5_hl100 libktpaccountskcminternal9 liblensfun1 libloudmouth-1-0 libmarblewidget22 libopencv3_1 libopencv-qt56_3 libpackagekitqt5-0 libtag-extras1 libxine2-pulse metatheme-breeze-common quick-usb-formatter showfoto skanlite skanlite-lang subtitlecomposer
  subtitlecomposer-lang vlc-codec-gstreamer xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-joystick xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-libinput xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-input-void xf86-input-wacom xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-ati xf86-video-fbdev xf86-video-mach64
  xf86-video-nouveau xf86-video-r128 xf86-video-vesa                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
The following 10 NEW packages are going to be installed:                                                                                                                                                                                                              
  kmozillahelper libmutter-0-0 python2-appdirs python2-packaging python2-psutil python2-pyparsing python2-pytz python2-setuptools python2-six typelib-1_0-Rsvg-2_0                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
The following 2 applications are going to be REMOVED:                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
  Desktop "System Tray"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
The following 6 packages are going to be REMOVED:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
  libmutter0 mozilla-kde4-integration python-psutil python-pytz python-setuptools python-six                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
The following 33 packages are going to be upgraded:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
  cpupower cups-filters cups-filters-cups-browsed cups-filters-foomatic-rip cups-filters-ghostscript gnome-shell gnome-shell-browser-plugin gnome-shell-calendar libcpupower0 libMagick++-6_Q16-7 libMagickCore-6_Q16-4 libMagickWand-6_Q16-4 libmysqlclient18 libmysqlclient_r18 libmysqld18    
  libopenshot0 libsodium18 libxine2 libxine2-codecs mariadb mariadb-client mariadb-errormessages mutter mutter-data openshot-qt openSUSE-release openSUSE-release-ftp python3-openshot python-requests unrar wireless-regdb xine-ui youtube-dl                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
The following product is going to be upgraded:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
  "openSUSE Tumbleweed"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
33 packages to upgrade, 10 new, 6 to remove.

etc… it updated.
Tried again w/ desktop applet, and got same error:
““A security trust relationship is not present A security trust relationship could not be made with the software origin.
Please check your software signature settings.””

So I tried again:

linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper ref
Repository 'Libdvdcss' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Repository 'Packman-Tumbleweed' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Repository 'Plex' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Repository 'KDE:Extra' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-oss' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Repository 'openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update' is up to date.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
All repositories have been refreshed.
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper verify
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following 2 applications are going to be REMOVED:
  Desktop "System Tray"

No additional space will be used or freed after the operation.
Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied.
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following 56 package updates will NOT be installed:
  chromium cln digikam digikam-doc digikam-lang dolphin-plugin-checksum fdupes gtk2-metatheme-breeze gtk3-metatheme-breeze kcheckhash kernel-default-4.10.4-1.3 kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-lang konversation konversation-lang kshutdown ktp-accounts-kcm lensfun-data libdigikamcore5 libepub0
  libhdf4 libhdf5-100 libhdf5_hl100 libktpaccountskcminternal9 liblensfun1 libloudmouth-1-0 libmarblewidget22 libopencv3_1 libopencv-qt56_3 libpackagekitqt5-0 libtag-extras1 libxine2-pulse metatheme-breeze-common quick-usb-formatter showfoto skanlite skanlite-lang subtitlecomposer
  subtitlecomposer-lang vlc-codec-gstreamer xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-joystick xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-libinput xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-input-void xf86-input-wacom xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-ati xf86-video-fbdev xf86-video-mach64
  xf86-video-nouveau xf86-video-r128 xf86-video-vesa

The following 2 applications are going to be REMOVED:
  Desktop "System Tray"

No additional space will be used or freed after the operation.
Nothing to do.
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert #

How do I fix the desktop applet to work?

thanks
John Kilbert

2

you shouldnt be using the applet for updating TW (i dont know why its included). sudo zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change is the correct way. If you dont use this you will eventually break your system (the number of packages stated as ‘not going to be installed’ is a symptom of this). KDE extra has just updated the gpg key which might cause the security message.

3

Correct. Using zypper up (as the OP did in the first post) isn’t the correct way to update TW either. In fact that is what the applet/Packgekit tries to emulate.

4

Thanks,I was not aware that the applet was not used in TW.
How can I ensure I have the correct repo’s selected, and correct system packages to fix the 'the following x packages will not be installed issue?

5

I should say you begin with posting the repo list, else nobody can comment. :wink:

zypper lr -d
6

not quite sure i understand the question, but to explain.
the sudo zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change will do a distro upgrade but maintain all packages on original repos (unless unavoidable) so you can use with all relevant repos enabled. The non installed packages are a direct result of zypper up (it is not allowed to delete packages). If you have a separate problem with your repos you would need to post the repo list and problem.

you may have some problems the first time you run this if you have been using zypper up for a while, i.e. requests to change vendor when original package no longer exists.

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thanks here is the repo list

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inux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper lr -d
Repository priorities are without effect. All enabled repositories share the same priority.

#  | Alias                               | Name                        | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type     | URI                                                                       | Service
---+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+----------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
 1 | Libdvdcss                           | Libdvdcss                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/                       |        
 2 | Packman-Tumbleweed                  | Packman-Tumbleweed          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/       |        
 3 | Plex                                | Plex                        | Yes     | ( p) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/Kilbert/Downloads/Plex/Repo                                   |        
 4 | PlexRepo                            | PlexRepo                    | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE     | https://downloads.plex.tv/repo/rpm/x86_64/                                |        
 5 | http-download.opensuse.org-9d6a228c | KDE:Extra                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ |        
 6 | openSUSE-20160720-0                 | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-oss     | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                         |        
 7 | repo-debug                          | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug   | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                   |        
 8 | repo-non-oss                        | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/                     |        
 9 | repo-source                         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source  | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                  |        
10 | repo-update                         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/                           |        
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # ^C

I am wondering why some packages were not being updater by zypper -up; as I use them often especially chromium, mediainfo, kshutdown etc… Once this happened to me in the past, I seem to remember I had to “switch packages to this repository” somewhere in yast.

The following 101 package updates will NOT be installed:                                                                                                                                                                                                              
  chromium cln digikam digikam-doc digikam-lang dolphin-plugin-checksum fdupes gtk2-metatheme-breeze gtk3-metatheme-breeze kcheckhash kcoreaddons-lang kde4-mediainfo kdelibs4support-lang kdoctools-lang kernel-default-4.10.4-1.4 kinit-lang kio-lang kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-lang
  konversation konversation-lang kross-lang kservice-lang kshutdown ktexteditor-lang ktp-accounts-kcm lensfun-data libdigikamcore5 libepub0 libhdf4 libhdf5-100 libhdf5_hl100 libKF5Auth5-lang libKF5Bookmarks5-lang libKF5Codecs5-lang libKF5Completion5-lang libKF5ConfigCore5-lang
  libKF5ConfigWidgets5-lang libKF5DBusAddons5-lang libKF5Declarative5-lang libKF5DNSSD5-lang libKF5GlobalAccel5-lang libKF5I18n5-lang libKF5IconThemes5-lang libKF5ItemViews5-lang libKF5JobWidgets5-lang libKF5JsEmbed5-lang libKF5KCMUtils5-lang libKF5KHtml5-lang libKF5NewStuff5-lang
  libKF5Notifications5-lang libKF5NotifyConfig5-lang libKF5Parts5-lang libKF5Pty5-lang libKF5Solid5-lang libKF5SonnetCore5-lang libKF5Su5-lang libKF5SyntaxHighlighting5-lang libKF5TextWidgets5-lang libKF5UnitConversion5-lang libKF5WidgetsAddons5-lang libKF5WindowSystem5-lang
  libKF5XmlGui5-lang libKF5XmlRpcClient5-lang libktpaccountskcminternal9 liblensfun1 libloudmouth-1-0 libmarblewidget22 libmediainfo0 libopencv3_1 libopencv-qt56_3 libpackagekitqt5-0 libtag-extras1 libxine2-pulse libzen0 mediainfo mediainfo-gui metatheme-breeze-common                     
  plasma-framework-lang showfoto skanlite skanlite-lang subtitlecomposer subtitlecomposer-lang vlc-codec-gstreamer xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-joystick xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-libinput xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-input-void xf86-input-wacom        
  xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-ati xf86-video-fbdev xf86-video-mach64 xf86-video-nouveau xf86-video-r128 xf86-video-vesa                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
The following 2 NEW packages are going to be installed:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
  libKF5DocTools5 libmovit6

thanks
John Kilbert

8

That looks fine to me. You could however disable libdvdcs, because you only use it once. It is never updated.

  1. It is not
zypper -up

, but

zypper up

.

  1. There is no connection between the number of times yo use a program and the frequency with which they need to be patched/updated.

Contrary to your repo listing above, in this CODE part, you did not include the prompts, nor the command. Thus now we have a list of warnings, but we have no idea what you did to get them.:frowning:

9

Sorry, I did not include because I did not think it was pertinent her eis the complete fresh output:
I know that the amount I use a program does not mean it updated more, I meant that because I use the programs on the “will not be updated list”, I would like to use the newer version which contains bug-fixes, expanded capabilities etc…, but for some reason, they will not be updated by the zypper up command. I can update them individually (i tried, and it updated)

Thanks
JKilbert

Kilbert@linux-f5tb:~> su
Password:
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper lr -d
Repository priorities are without effect. All enabled repositories share the same priority.

#  | Alias                               | Name                        | Enabled | GPG Check | Refresh | Priority | Type     | URI                                                                       | Service
---+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------+---------+-----------+---------+----------+----------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
 1 | Libdvdcss                           | Libdvdcss                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/                       |        
 2 | Packman-Tumbleweed                  | Packman-Tumbleweed          | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/       |        
 3 | Plex                                | Plex                        | Yes     | ( p) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | plaindir | dir:///home/Kilbert/Downloads/Plex/Repo                                   |        
 4 | PlexRepo                            | PlexRepo                    | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE     | https://downloads.plex.tv/repo/rpm/x86_64/                                |        
 5 | http-download.opensuse.org-9d6a228c | KDE:Extra                   | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ |        
 6 | openSUSE-20160720-0                 | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-oss     | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                         |        
 7 | repo-debug                          | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Debug   | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                   |        
 8 | repo-non-oss                        | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Non-Oss | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | yast2    | http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/                     |        
 9 | repo-source                         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Source  | No      | ----      | ----    |   99     | NONE     | http://download.opensuse.org/source/tumbleweed/repo/oss/                  |        
10 | repo-update                         | openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Update  | Yes     | (r ) Yes  | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md   | http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/                           |        
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following 58 package updates will NOT be installed:
  cln digikam digikam-doc digikam-lang dolphin-plugin-checksum fdupes gtk2-metatheme-breeze gtk3-metatheme-breeze kcheckhash kde4-mediainfo kernel-default-4.10.4-1.4 kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-lang konversation konversation-lang kshutdown ktp-accounts-kcm lensfun-data libdigikamcore5
  libepub0 libhdf4 libhdf5-100 libhdf5_hl100 libktpaccountskcminternal9 liblensfun1 libloudmouth-1-0 libmarblewidget22 libmediainfo0 libopencv3_1 libopencv-qt56_3 libpackagekitqt5-0 libtag-extras1 libxine2-pulse libzen0 mediainfo mediainfo-gui metatheme-breeze-common showfoto skanlite
  skanlite-lang subtitlecomposer-lang vlc-codec-gstreamer xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-joystick xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-libinput xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-input-void xf86-input-wacom xf86-video-amdgpu xf86-video-ati xf86-video-fbdev
  xf86-video-mach64 xf86-video-nouveau xf86-video-r128 xf86-video-vesa

The following 2 applications are going to be REMOVED:
  Desktop "System Tray"

No additional space will be used or freed after the operation.
Nothing to do.
linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert #
10

your asking why you get “The following 101 package updates will NOT be installed” when using zypper up?
incorrect use of zypper up causes this problem directly, its explained in my previous post.

11

With zypper up updates only come from repos or vendor that the original package came from. So that list indicates packages that have newer version numbers but are not in the vendor you got the packages from. In any case use zypper dup to get always that latest even if not from the original vendor repo

In TW it is recommended to use zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change in any case since if you mix version you can break your system

In Leap you should only use zypper up

12

Thanks for the clarification, I thought he was saying i neede to remove the “-” in zypper -up, which I did.

I ran as you said, and it will not update as I need to change vendors, Is it is OK to change vendors?

thanks
JKilbert

linux-f5tb:/home/Kilbert # zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change
Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command.
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Computing distribution upgrade...
21 Problems:
Problem: problem with installed package J7Z-1.4.0-2.3.noarch
Problem: problem with installed package dolphin-plugin-checksum-0.4-1.38.noarch
Problem: problem with installed package fdupes-1.51-3.19.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package kcheckhash-0.4-1.38.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package kde4-mediainfo-0.7.89-3.3.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package kdenlive-16.12.3-3.1.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libdigikamcore5-5.2.0-163.4.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libguess1-1.2-11.10.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libhdf4-4.2.11-31.16.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libhdf5-100-1.10.0-44.4.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libhdf5_hl100-1.10.0-44.4.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libkcddb16-16.07.0-5.6.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libmediainfo0-0.7.89-1.10.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libopencv-qt56_3-3.1.0-92.42.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libsoxr0-0.1.2-12.7.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package libzen0-0.4.29-1.44.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package mediainfo-0.7.89-3.3.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package mediainfo-gui-0.7.89-3.3.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package showfoto-5.2.0-163.4.x86_64
Problem: problem with installed package skanlite-lang-2.0-8.5.noarch
Problem: problem with installed package subtitlecomposer-lang-0.6.4-1.8.noarch

Problem: problem with installed package J7Z-1.4.0-2.3.noarch
 Solution 1: install J7Z-1.4.0-2.1.noarch (with vendor change)
  http://packman.links2linux.de  -->  openSUSE
13

Note sometime a build number gets higher and looks like a newer package when it is just a build number (the last bunch of digits).

The change would be from Packman to openSUSE. If a media type package then always get from packman since it supports proprietary formats but opneSUSE does not. Soooo It depends.

Personally i would not worry about it if the programs work. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

Bring the package in question up in Yast and look at the version tab at the bottom right. That may help you decide if you must have the absolutely newest compile made. Generally only the first 4 or 5 numbers mean any real changes were made and not just a compile number tacked on the end. Just because a program is recompiled does not mean any code was changed.

The problem with zypper dup alone is that it pules the newest from where every it sees it and this can lead to mixed version numbers for packages and lead to crashes or completely broken systems. I’d speculate that at least 30% of the problems reported here are due to mixing packages from different repos. So just follow the recommended procedures and don’t worry about version number that is what computers are for and with all the changes that happen in TW things may get out of sync a bit between reops/vendors but it all sorts itself out in the end. Just follow the path grasshopper :wink:

14

Thanks
I am one of those who in the past had problematic systems due to mixing of repos. I will just wait and see for now
thansk

15

As many explained while I was asleep:

You wrote somewhere zypper -up. That probably was a typo in the post and not in the terminal, but you should in fact not type that yourself, but copy/paste from your terminal emulator window what you did.

And several people explained very early in this thread that you should not do zypper up. Thus when you posted you got errors, it was still unclear if you got those errors with:

  • zypper -up
  • zypper up
  • zypper dup ----no-allow-vendor-change

This confusion only because you violated the rule to copy/paste prompt, command, output and next prompt. I hope you now understand why this is asked for.

I hope all is sorted now.