Cannot reach login screen due to power failure and stupidity.

I’m sorry, but the nntp gateawy that allows me to read and post here is down, since past midnight, and there are no estimates for repair time (hours? days? weeks?). No idea what is broken, no message given.

So I’m sorry, but I have to wait till they repair it before I can come back and try to help you. I’m barely able to post via http.

>:(

That is the error for mixing architectures ie the bits of the thing you install is not the same as that which you are installing to, one is 32 bit the other is 64

Another possibility is a bad download check the check sums

I see the message “We are currently experiencing problems with our NNTP service” as I’m posting this. Lets hope it’ll get resolved soon.
In any case, I have a clone of my work on the windows 7 system, via an online repository. So I can wait for a few days. But I may need to get back to Linux by around Sunday (no equivalent of a good latex editor on windows).
Thanks.

Regards.

It is the same DVD from which I installed earlier this year. Also see the output from my previous post. The only change is all the incremental upgrades since around May.

Well the error/warning is clear and no update will change the architecture. So did you run media check disks do go bad.

Actually, I knew that, but I thought the reasons should be pointed out and I was in a hurry and too lazy for any more explanatory typing. But, I thought if I tossed that in, you would come back with our shared view on this and probably give the reasons why. :wink:

On 2014-10-30 05:46, Fraser Bell wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2671559 Wrote:
>>
>> I do not generally recommend enabling update repos during the offline
>> upgrade method …
>
> Actually, I knew that, but I thought the reasons should be pointed out
> and I was in a hurry and too lazy for any more explanatory typing. But,
> I thought if I tossed that in, you would come back with our shared view
> on this and probably give the reasons why. :wink:

:slight_smile:

Well, it appears that the NNTP interface is back. All posts in the
interval are lost to me. I’m very tired now, I should be sleeping. Busy.
I’ll try have a look tomorrow on the web side to see what I missed, on
this thread. Impossible to track all then threads, I just remember that
this one had pending issues.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

Well …

Maybe not really impossible, Carlos.

Top right of the page, click on “My Profile”.

In there, click on the tab with your forum name and/or Subscriptions

You should be able to see where you were with most your recent thread activity.:slight_smile:

I had run it earlier, but I ran it again, just to be sure. This is the Check DVD media available via the openSUSE DVD:

openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64-Build0091-Media,DVD1
Result: No Errors Found.

I pressed the Enter button on the keyboard to dismiss the dialog box. Then I got the following on the screen:

loading instrallation system 1/6 - 100%

[6 times]
loading instrallation system 6/6 - 100%

  • Unknown user nalme polktid in …

The message flashed by very fast so I was unable to copy the rest. But is was a short message. In any case after this it brought up the usual installation screen.
Isn’t it more likely that the corruption is on the OS hard disk partition? But in that case, shouldn’t the install program be able to determine that something is not right? It straightaway says that architecture is different as if there is nothing otherwise wrong with the partition. Or is there a separate check I can run on the partition?

At the time I downloaded the .iso (openSUSE version 13.1.4) file, I didn’t occur to me to verify the checksum. Moreover I deleted the original .iso file after I had made a bootable DVD.

Ok which partition is this flagged on? The only partition that maters for architecture is root ie it is the system applications that are a given architecture. The rest for the most part is just data and data does not care if a 32 bit or a 64 bit OS is using it.

If the DVD passed the media check it should be ok. But the oopsie at the end is troubling.

When the installation/upgrade screen comes up and I click next, no partitions are shown by default. I check the box at the bottom that says “Show all partitions”. This shows all the partitions with the sda1 partition selected by default (sda1 happens to be a windows system partition). I change the selection to sda6 (which is LXROOT - the one linux root partition that I have). Then when I click next, I get the message "Architecture is different etc… ". But there are two options on the message box: “Cancel” and “Continue”. If I click Cancel, it goes back to the partition selection screen. If I click Continue, it goes to the next step where it shows a bunch of repositories (all in the “removed” state since I guess I did not check “use online repositories”). I click next again and it comes to the final install/upgrade page where I can modify any settings. Here among other things, it shows:

Update to openSUSE
packages to install: 712
New packages to install: 23
Packages to remove: 38
Total size of packages: 2.9 GB

The next step would begin the upgrade so I aborted here.

What I would do is full install without formatting home partition just mount it as /home It would mean reinstall programs that I might need or use but that would take far less time then and trouble then you already have had LOL

On 2014-10-30 08:06, Fraser Bell wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2671824 Wrote:
>> Impossible to track all then threads, I just remember that
>> this one had pending issues.
>>
>
> Well …
>
> Maybe not really impossible, Carlos.
>
> Top right of the page, click on “My Profile”.
>
> In there, click on the tab with your forum name and/or Subscriptions

Empty.

As I use nntp, it is empty. Except for this single thread which I
activated manually as I thought it was important.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

On 2014-10-30 00:46, gogalthorp wrote:
>
> and no update will change the
> architecture.

Yes, it will.
It is a non-officially-supported feature of the dvd upgrader, but it
works, with caveats. You may be intentionally be doing this, or
accidentally, when you download the wrong dvd or indicate the wrong
partition.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

On 2014-10-30 18:36, emeskay wrote:
>
> When the installation/upgrade screen comes up and I click next, no
> partitions are shown by default. I check the box at the bottom that says
> “Show all partitions”. This shows all the partitions with the sda1
> partition selected by default (sda1 happens to be a windows system
> partition). I change the selection to sda6 (which is LXROOT - the one
> linux root partition that I have). Then when I click next, I get the
> message "Architecture is different etc… ". But there are two options on
> the message box: “Cancel” and “Continue”. If I click Cancel, it goes
> back to the partition selection screen. If I click Continue, it goes to
> the next step where it shows a bunch of repositories (all in the
> “removed” state since I guess I did not check “use online
> repositories”). I click next again and it comes to the final
> install/upgrade page where I can modify any settings. Here among other
> things, it shows:
>
> Update to openSUSE
> packages to install: 712
> New packages to install: 23
> Packages to remove: 38
> Total size of packages: 2.9 GB
>
> The next step would begin the upgrade so I aborted here.

Ok, assuming that you are telling the updater the correct partition, it
is possible that it misses the architecture because some files were lost
with all the problems you had.

Check:


cat /etc/SuSE-release
cat /etc/SuSE-brand
cat /etc/os-release

On a 13.1, “brand” should be missing, and the other two should say it is
a 64 bit 13.1 release. If “os-release” is missing, recreate it with this
content:


NAME=openSUSE
VERSION="13.1 (Bottle)"
VERSION_ID="13.1"
PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64)"
ID=opensuse
ANSI_COLOR="0;32"
CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:opensuse:opensuse:13.1"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.opensuse.org"
HOME_URL="https://opensuse.org/"
ID_LIKE="suse"

Then boot the dvd upgrader, and it should not complain about the “wrong
architecture”.

Or simply don’t bother, and attempt the dvd upgrade. If it complains
about wrong arch, ignore, go ahead. Do not activate online repos, use
just the DVD. In my experience, it works better.

>> In any case, I did a quick dry run for the upgrade. If I leave the
>> options “Use online repositories” unchecked, the install program informs
>> me that sda6 has a different architecture - to be expected since the DVD
>> I have is version 13.1.4 which has been upgraded over time. So I guess I
>> should check the “Use online repositories” option and “automatic
>> configuration” option?

Note: the DVD has not been changed since release. The installation media
never are (just one historic instance, because of a very bad bug).

There is no such thing as version 13.1.4, I don’t know where you get
that info from.

Just make sure that there are no other linuxes on other partitions and
you pointed to the wrong one, ie, that sda6 is the correct one.

The “upgrade” should gray out the “automatic”. If there is an option,
don’t choose automatic method. I don’t trust automatisms here.

Now I need some serious sleep time. But I will not have it… tomorrow I
wake relatively early. Sigh :frowning:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)

In case you missed my previous posts:

Since I cant log in to the system, I had to go via rescue, mount the main partition and then type:
cat /mnt/etc/os-release

I didn’t really know how to save the result to file. so I took it down on a piece of paper.

Result is:
NAME=openSUSE
VERSION=“13.1(Bottle)”
PRETTY_NAME= “openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle)(x86_64)”
ID=opensuse
ANSI_COLOR=“0.32”
CPE_NAME=“cpe:/o:opensuse:opensuse:13.1”
BUG_REPORT_URL=“https://bugs.opensuse.org
ID_LIKE=“suse”

Result of lsblk --output NAME,KNAME, … etc is:

RM RO SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL UUID
sda 485.6 GB
sda1 0 0 100 MB ntfs
sda2 0 0 1 KB
sda3 0 0 125 GB ntfs SYSTEM
sda4 0 0 214.9 GB ntfs OUTPUT
sda5 0 0 7.5 GB swap
sda6 0 0 70 GB ext4 LXROOT
sda7 0 0 47.4 GB ext4 LXHOME
sdb 485.6 GB
sdb1 0 0 48.8 GB ntfs SWAP
sdb2 0 0 48.8 GB ntfs WORK
sdb3 0 0 183.6 GB ntfs MEDIA
sdb4 0 0 1 KB
sdb5 0 0 183.6 GB ntfs STORAGE
sdc
sdc1 0 0 40 GB [TABLE=“class: cms_table”]

[TR]
[TD]XPSYSTEM||

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]sdc2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1 KB[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]sdc3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]109 GB[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]XPDATA[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]sr0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]4.3 GB[/TD]
[TD]rom[/TD]
[TD]ISO9660[/TD]
[TD]OPENSUSE 13.1
DVD x86_64[/TD]
[TD]2013-11-06
-20-55-31-00[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]loop0[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]loop[/TD]
[TD]squashfs[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]loop1[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]loop[/TD]
[TD]squashfs[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]loop2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]loop[/TD]
[TD]squashfs[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]loop3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]loop[/TD]
[TD]squashfs[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]loop4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]loop[/TD]
[TD]squashfs[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Alignments are all 0.

As you can see, I have a bunch of ntfs partitions. Windows 7 system is on SYSTEM. An old xp system lies on sdc.
I didn’t bother with the UUIDS except for the dvd drive. By the way what is loop0, loop1, … etc. What about RM and RO?

Also the exact message for upgrade (onto sda6) was :
“The architecture of the system installed in the selected partition is different from the one of this product.”

Thanks.

Regards.

I get the version number from the file \docu\RELEASE-NOTES.en.html on the DVD. The top of this file has:

openSUSE 13.1 Release Notes
Version: 13.1.4 (2013-10-17)
Copyright © 2013 SUSE LLC

Just like the version on openSUSE http://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/13.1/ is version 13.1.10.

Output of cat /mnt/etc/SuSE-release :

openSUSE 13.1 (x86_64)
version = 13.1
CODENAME = Bottle
/etc/SuSE-release is deprecated and will be removed in a future release. Use etc/os-release instead.

cat /mnt/etc/SuSE-brand :

No such file or directory.

Maybe the architecture message is because the version on the DVD is older than the version installed (since it has been upgraded over time). So perhaps I should download the latest version and use that to upgrade. then there will be less to download afterwards.

On 2014-10-31 08:46, emeskay wrote:
>
> I get the version number from the file \docu\RELEASE-NOTES.en.html on
> the DVD. The top of this file has:

You have it in /media.1/products and build. The version in the release
notes, is, well, the version of the release notes :wink:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)